WW 34--The Slugfest!

[BRickAstley]

If that's the case, then let's just not even vote til the last hour and kill whoever the majority around feels lie they want to kill in the heat of the moment.

Isn't that how we always play? :P

What's your take on Bob at this point?

Sadly, that's true...

Honestly I've not been thinking as much about Bob this day around. I saw his claim, and after thinking about it, I don't feel like it would automatically be a claim that he would jump into making as scum. I can believe what he said here:

I was operating under the assumption that Sunrise was a mafia goon, not a carbon-copy of Rowain's role. That's fairly obvious if you actually read what I wrote previously. My fault for not realizing that "You are a traitor." referred to Sunrise's role (I would have expected "traitor" to be capitalized), and was not just a generally declaration of scumminess on MJW's part. Note that the role is now properly capitalized in the player roster.

because looking back at the end of night post myself, I can see how there would be some legitimate confusion.

Also, I can agree and sympathize with this thought he had, since I personally can fall into a victim complex myself:

Let's be honest though, if I had revealed N1 we'd be hearing cries now instead about how I only did so because I'm scum and was terrified of a vig shooting me or seer scanning me. Or conversely if I revealed D3+ people would complain that I was being unacceptably reckless by potentially allowing village power roles to suicide with me on multiple occasions. When I made my reveal is irrelevant for people who want to lynch me as a matter of policy.

Now all this doesn't permanently exclude him, especially since he is claiming something that we can't investigate and have to waste a lynch on. I have just been concentrating more on Jowy because I feel like the case on him is less meta-determined and more based on some inexplicable actions. In addition, I think we'll get information that will help us interpret Bob once we see how Jowy flips.

[BRickAstley]

I think Jowy's point is that Brick was targeted by something unknown last night, so he might be poisoned and scheduled to die next night, unless somebody can cure him.

ohh, i didn't get that.

That's a bit of a stretch isn't it, what do we have to support that theory?

No need for theorizing. If someone does have a role that cures poison, then it's fair to assume that poison also exists and was probably used on Brick last night and he should be cured

Brick you should share the flavor message.

I can say for sure that the flavor does not lead me to believe that poison could be involved, unless you make a large leap of logic. And since MJW has been saying that flavor matters, I'm hesitant to think I'd receive flavor that then resulted in something very different. Then again, MJW.

Jowy, what gave YOU any reasoning to suspect that there even was a mechanic for a poison, specifically?

I am hesitant to go ahead and put the flavor out there now since this is a hot topic and I don't trust you, but if other people think it's a good idea I would be willing to do so.

I feel like there's only like 3 of us actual villagers left and everyone else is scum or traitor. And since MJW is hosting and 2/3 dead so far were traitors, I can't just dismiss that in my head as a possibility. :P

The Thursday Scenario is definitely a possibility, though we'd need to see a few more flips to be sure. I also feel like the contribution level is lower than it should be for Day 2, though its partly that we're at a bit of a dead end with Jabbz and Bob the leading contenders and both currently AWOL.

Ahhhh, now I make that connection. Of course if that's the case then we're screwed, cause then all the traitors could mass declare to get a workable voting majority. Then on the other hand, if that was the case, then villagers would just claim traitors too, to blend in, sand they'd get to ID who the actual scum are. So basically we're all confused n omatter if that's the case or not.

[BRickAstley]

I still feel like Jowy is acting the most suspicious of all. Especially with this poison business. Either he

• Is the one with the poison heal ability and just claimed it in a round about way.
  
• Is the one who poisoned me last night (which is unlikely) and is now trying to reverse it.
  
• Used some sort of investigative ability to know that there is poison in the game but doesn't know or doesn't want to say who he found out from.
  
• Is talking crap to try and get focus off himself.
  

I feel like the last option is the most likely, and that's why I'm keeping my vote on him for now.

Okay, is there anything addressed to me that I missed? I feel like a lot has happened both last night and since I logged on and started reading this morning. :P

[Jowy]

Being poisoned is one of the rare times when you would get a message that someone visited you.

[BRickAstley]

Yeah, but would it make any sense that you would get a completely unrelated message?

[Jowy]

I don't know how related or unrelated the message is, I haven't read it :P

[BRickAstley]

But that's what I'm saying, it is unrelated, so how in the blazes do you think that it is, and/or why are you being so persistent about it without giving any more reason why you are?

[Jowy]

MJW also confirmed that Sunrise's drug addict bit in his role PM had a purpose.

[Jowy]

But that's what I'm saying, it is unrelated, so how in the blazes do you think that it is, and/or why are you being so persistent about it without giving any more reason why you are?

Then figure it out yourself. I was just trying to help.

[BRickAstley]

At least we're back to the un-understandable Jowy.