WW 34--The Slugfest!

[Mattimeo]

Hey.

We're not breaking the game today. We don't need to. I know enough :P

We're lynching Brick today. I want Every. Single. Vote. to be on Brick. As soon as you come back online, change your vote to lynch Brick. He LITERALLY CONFESSED THAT HE'S SCUM, I don't care about any excuse you might have. Anyone who votes for someone else or changes their vote will be killed or lynched after Brick. I'm not joking, if you aren't on Brick today, you are confirmed scum and YOU WILL BE KILLED.

Jkaen DO NOT TELL US who you protected. We're going to keep the scum guessing. And if they guess wrong, BAM we are up another player in numbers and they're fucked.

This is a traitor game as you might have noticed. Scum are traitors who don't know who each other are, and they don't know how many of them there are. They have someone who makes kills. They started with numbers that are higher than the usual 20-25%, but they are down 4 players to our 2 so they can't have a majority. We will keep it this way. We will lynch Brick today to kill another traitor, and I will shoot another. And yeah, I shot Sunrise and GoreRipper. If anyone else has a shot, I hope you know who to shoot. Start with anyone who doesn't vote Brick today. Anyway as long as we keep the numbers on our side, they can't do shit. WE NEED TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE. No excuses. We start by lynching Brick today.

I have people who I know I can trust 100%. I have very strong reads on every other player alive. I'm going to keep them to myself because the scum don't need to know. I'm not going to spoon feed them information on who they should kill and lynch and who they shouldn't.

BRICKASTLEY

You're saying that there is no actual scum team, just a heap of traitors who don't know who each other are?

I'm not sure I buy that - I believe that lynching BRick is not going to actually bring us closer to winning at all, merely make it harder for scum + traitors to form a workable majority during the day.

On the other hand, apparently there is no room for dissent in this village, only blind following of our new god Jowy, so BRickAstley.

I do hope the town-aligned vigs who we can assume are out there can shoot people who actually stop us from winning, rather than their flunkies who a) can't communicate with them and b) won't actually count towards their win-con.

[Mattimeo]

I also have growing doubts about Mattimeo. His role and your role seem to largely overlap, you are information gatherers. I have a town read on you, vs no good read on Mattimeo. Also, Bob was a town hyperbomb, so unless it was 100% bastard role, I guess that scum probably have night actions to visit people as well, and Bob was a potential danger to them. Also if there are town-aligned vigilantes as there seem likely to be, then it would make sense for scum to have a way to try and find them.

Sure. That's why the person who eggs people is a traitor, while the burglar isn't. Got it.

Mattimeo, are you both a tracker and a watcher, is that it? I.e. you pick a single target and then both track and watch that target?

Yes.

...wait

Also Im not worried if this just gets me votes today BECAUSE i have the fun role of being a traitor who is apparently a shy doomsday prepper. What that means mechanically is that my vote counts for less (I don't have any numbers since MJW won't publish an OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT already), but I am prepared for any situation and the first kill of any sort against me will fail. Unless I'm just making that part up because I'm bold and brash scum wanting you to not actually kill me. So have debating whether you should waste time trying to lynch me today you buggers.

Does that include lynches? 'Cause if it does, lynching BRick won't even do anything to numbers.

[Mattimeo]

So claims we have:

BaII - Vanilla Traitor.
zakalwe - ?
novice - ?
Rowain - Vanilla Traitor
Qgqqqqq - Graverobber Villager.
AdrienIer - RoleSeer Villager?
Gazglum - ?
BRickAstley -2 life traitor
Jkaen - vestsender & wearer villager
Bobchillingworth HyperBomb Villager.
Lewwyn - ?
sunrise089 - Vanilla Traitor.
Jowy - Scumburner villager
Mattimeo - ?
Goreripper -Vestsender Traitor.
Jabbz - ?

Updating this for people still alive:
zakalwe - ??
novice - ??
AdrienIer - Burglar (role-seer)
Gazglum - ??
BRickAstley - 2 lives, half? vote
Jkaen - bulletproof distributor
Lewwyn - ??
Jowy - burns mafia-aligned
Mattimeo - egger (watcher + tracker)
Jabbz - non-hyper bomb

Now, we've apparently 4 attempted kills last night. 2 got through, Jowy's and one other (large hole in chest + pellets), and two apparently bounced off Jkaen's 99 bulletproof vests. Assuming one scum-kill, and that everyone is telling the truth, that means there are 2 people with the ability to night-kill out of the 4 who haven't claimed.

If we're going for this "remove BRick's extra life" plan today, I hope you guys trust half the unclaimed people to be town. Else, we're going to have trouble when it comes to racing night-kills.

[BRickAstley]

blind following of our new god Jowy

...wait

Does that include lynches? 'Cause if it does, lynching BRick won't even do anything to numbers.

[novice]

Hey.

We're not breaking the game today. We don't need to. I know enough :P

We're lynching Brick today. I want Every. Single. Vote. to be on Brick. As soon as you come back online, change your vote to lynch Brick. He LITERALLY CONFESSED THAT HE'S SCUM, I don't care about any excuse you might have. Anyone who votes for someone else or changes their vote will be killed or lynched after Brick. I'm not joking, if you aren't on Brick today, you are confirmed scum and YOU WILL BE KILLED.

Jkaen DO NOT TELL US who you protected. We're going to keep the scum guessing. And if they guess wrong, BAM we are up another player in numbers and they're fucked.

This is a traitor game as you might have noticed. Scum are traitors who don't know who each other are, and they don't know how many of them there are. They have someone who makes kills. They started with numbers that are higher than the usual 20-25%, but they are down 4 players to our 2 so they can't have a majority. We will keep it this way. We will lynch Brick today to kill another traitor, and I will shoot another. And yeah, I shot Sunrise and GoreRipper. If anyone else has a shot, I hope you know who to shoot. Start with anyone who doesn't vote Brick today. Anyway as long as we keep the numbers on our side, they can't do shit. WE NEED TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE. No excuses. We start by lynching Brick today.

I have people who I know I can trust 100%. I have very strong reads on every other player alive. I'm going to keep them to myself because the scum don't need to know. I'm not going to spoon feed them information on who they should kill and lynch and who they shouldn't.

BRICKASTLEY

Won't this plan break down the moment you're killed?

[Jkaen]

Jkaen, you said earlier that your flavor suggests that there is no SK. How so?

And you claim to have visited Sunrise during night 1 to give him a vest, and then Novice during day 2 to give him a vest? Correct?

Mattimeo, are you both a tracker and a watcher, is that it? I.e. you pick a single target and then both track and watch that target?

Oh and Brick, you're not on some secret Internal Security mission to vote for every player, are you?

I believe the pro gun lobby would be multiple people especially as it's specifically says in my pm the fact that somebody I send multiple shirts to can't survive more than 1 shot in a night. Having multiple gigs seem the most likely way to see multiple shots per night.

I sent sunrise right at the end of day 1, novice about 20 hours in

[Gazglum]

Hey.

We're not breaking the game today. We don't need to. I know enough :P

Welcome home Master Jowy!

I think your plan is broadly the right one. But not sure on the target.

First off, as I think Zak has been hinting at too, Adrien's evidence makes it pretty certain Jkaen is a traitor.

WOrking attached:

> BaII is vanilla traitor, so couldn't have done anything at night. Nor did he vote Jkaen or vice versa.

> Jkaen is in BaII's 'contact book'.

> Jkaen has claimed his only power is vest giving

> Jkaen has claimed that he can only give one vest each day night cycle

If I mail it in the first 24 hours of the day it arrives in time to protect that night. If i mail it later, which I have taken (but didnt ask for confirmation) as being either next 24 of day or at night, it arrives after the kill.

I can only send 1 in each day/night cycle

> Jkaen has claimed that he sent the first vest to Sunrise (unconfirmable) and the second to NOvice (denied and unwitnessed)

So there is no room in Jkaen's story for him to have contacted BaII, even though he clearly did. And the reason he wouldn't want to confess to it is that BaII was a likely anti-village player, and trying to protect him from vigilantes is a traitor move.

So given that Jkaen can keep handing out scumvests, isn't he a better lynch for today than Brick?

[zakalwe]

Yes, I've been thinking along the same lines, Gazglum, that something doesn't add up about Jkaen's claims. But if BaII (and not Sunrise) was the one who got a bulletproof vest on night 1, how come BaII was still shot to death on night 2? A strongman vig?

What's more, Jowy seems adamant that Jkaen is town, and Jowy's ability also works to (more or less) clear anyone who doesn't burn.

[Jowy]

Mattimeo, Brick is bluffing. He will die, trust me.

Novice, I have a plan in case I die.

Gazglum, he probably sent it to novice and it ended up with BaII because of whatever, I don't care. He wouldn't claim he sent it to novice if he didn't. Now vote Brick.

[Jkaen]

No idea why i am in BaII's address book.

Brick