(January 29th, 2015, 02:44)Meiz Wrote: I'll give a small town lean for Zak for spotting Jabbz's GF comment. That indicates that he's really looking for clues.
This is mildly sycophantic.
@Rowain. I guess if you read it literally, that opening post does convey some excitement. I interpreted it as fake excitement, with a dash of sarcasm and a hint of resignation.
(January 29th, 2015, 03:39)zakalwe Wrote: By the way Meiz,
(January 29th, 2015, 02:44)Meiz Wrote: I'll give a small town lean for Zak for spotting Jabbz's GF comment. That indicates that he's really looking for clues.
This is mildly sycophantic.
You mean I'd be giving town tell for you too easily and therefore would be fishing your favor? It's a day 1 read, plus I haven't really found your other posts suspicious either so far.
(January 29th, 2015, 01:06)Jabbz Wrote: Caught up for the time being. As with the other two day one games, there isn't a lot of definitive information going around yet. What does stand out to me however, is Qg.
(January 28th, 2015, 13:43)Qgqqqqq Wrote:
This excuse sounds just absolutely terrible to me. It cites some nebulous other site forum game, claims that more roles makes a role blocker weaker, and claims "oh I'm bad, so I didn't want an important role." I don't know Qg all that well, but this seems very off for him.
What?
Let's go through those one by one. Nebulous other forum game here. Feel free to read all 3000 posts if you want - I was the Batman, a jailer/neighborizer that only worked on mislynches. Where do I say that more roles make a blocker worse? Of course, obviously a proclivity of town roles as opposed to mafia ones does, but that's hardly the point. I stated that I didn't want to discuss it deeply (obviously I rejected it for a better role, but didn't want to be too explicit on that matter), and stated some reasons why I dislike that role in general. I actually do happen to be bad with roles, but I'd certainly never turn down a better role on that bias.
I've stated in the past that I'm too much of a greater-good poster for my own good (look at, say, the day-vig game, where I was one of the stupid people trying to make order out of the chaos). There's no way I'd ever turn down a power role for say, vanilla, or miller, or tourist, and I've no idea where you got that idea.
This is a stupid argument for a wagoned vote. When I'm lynched, look at this easy and badly-thought out vote.
Jabbz Wrote:
(January 28th, 2015, 13:58)Qgqqqqq Wrote: I think vanilla cop is a good role on this setup, as it helps you eliminate roles. Seems like we have a ton of rehected vanillas, though, so maybe I'm wrong there.
Fenns comment at the start about voting someone for their position in the list just felt really weak- justifying overmuch.
Dtays comment about lynching those who rejected power roles seems quite flawed, really - sure there might be some scum among them, but there's also likely to be the best town roles. I don't think we want to draw those into the open - certainly not this early.
@Fenn, 3 cops if we count the lover.
So let's just not lynch anyone? Right now, dropped roles is the only solid information we have to go on. Saying that it's odd to drop roleblocker, or doctor, and putting pressure and or pushing for a lynch, is completely reasonable at this point. I think you have rapidly reached the point where you need to out yourself like Novice, or face the Engineer Posse. We have the education to build a very effective gallows. Just saying.
Qgqqqqq
WTF? Again, where do I say not to pressure them? Or not to lynch them (or me, for that matter)? What I was - and am! - saying is that going for a mass claim, or trying to pressure a claim out of people who are clearly likely to have very strong roles is stupid, and anti-town. We don't want that happening day 1, IMO.
The combination of going for such an easy late wagon post - which you clearly read earlier, and felt no reason to jump on until after I'd already built up a sizable following - and the way you're so eagerly pressuring another claim is something I find very suspicious.
Seriously, look at the timing and location of his earlier posts. In his first post, which came after both the above posts were made, he not only made no mention of me, but instead went down the list of role tosses (not finding mine odd), and finds novice suspicious - at a time when his votes were trending. (Not only that, but it's a very wishy-washy post, one that leaves quite open to jumping off and fishes for roles. Look at his comment on novice - "What would it take to throw that away, except for maybe the obvious mafia choices." - fishing for roles, and with an obvious response/defense - that is a claim.)
His second post is a back off on novice after the claim, an obvious and reasonable move. BTW, could you explain why you mentioned him as Godfather specifically? You don't seem to have any reason to have thought that over another wolf-role.
His other post/stuff is just meta around the Hider, and then this post - which, as I've said, stinks to high heaven.
Jabbz
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(January 29th, 2015, 02:44)Meiz Wrote: I think Qgqq just needs to claim his role at this point. The other option seems to be wasting the day by claiming at the last minute.
No. I'll claim in about 20 hours, if I'm still up top, but I'm not going to do it halfway through the day.
Quote:Ichabod's posts so far seem genuine. His wolf tell on Qgq was really insightful (Qgqq spending time crafting the post).
Look, this is just demonstrably false. If this is seriously being used as a tell, let's look at it:
Lynchpocalypse is coming, my friends. It comes for us all in the end, but today? Today it comes for me.
Anyway, yeah I got town/town :/ Not that it matters, for today I get to help the scum in an entirely unique and fascinating way - by becoming the instant topic of the day for them to dump votes on
I'd...rather not share why I rejected roleblocker, specifically. But I will say this: in one of my most recent games (not on this site) I rolled a boosted-jailkeeper (they also got to neighborize the people they jailsd) and honestly it wasn't a role I enjoyed much. Not only was RB a repeat of that - in a game packed with roles - it was a weaker version, and it's one that has significant downsides (I've never been very good with difficult roles, day 1 in that game I jailed our only cop thinking they were scum). So yeah, I chose against it.
Bobchillingworth, you were offered a chance to repeat last game, why wouldn't you take it?
What is so impressive about this post that makes you think it is pre-prepared? I mean...I don't get it. It's a phone post by me, composed on the spot. You can even see some of my tics there - the misspelled "jailsd" which comes up in tons of my phone posts, the lack of much formatting, the lack of any image or gif links (though admittedly, I never do gifs anyway, but this was a time when I wanted to, but couldn't because of phone), the lack of some specific capitalizations (Day 1, for example), the lack of complicated smilies and the presence of ones I forget don't show up on this forum....I could go on, but is this really a tell? Like, this just baffles me. I can link you to examples of the above, if necessary, but surely you recognize them?
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(January 29th, 2015, 04:06)Rowain Wrote: Or do you thing he got resigned because he had 2 or 3 votes at that moment?
I was thinking more along the lines of him feeling resigned because he got his desired scum role, but then got shafted by the GM unexpectedly publishing his discarded role.
BTW, I'm almost certainly going to have minimal presence for the remainder of Day 1. I'll be asleep/inactive starting pretty soon until roughly 9 hours away (where I'll be phone posting...as I do every day at roughly that time, and as I did today) for a short period, before being inactive for most of the day until the night roughly 21 hours from now, when I'm looking to claim if necessary.
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