February 4th, 2015, 00:27
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(February 3rd, 2015, 12:59)Twinkletoes89 Wrote: I'm not going to full claim as I prefer the 50/50 uncertainty for mafia.
All I can say is that I guarantee that Ichabod killed someone last night. Both vigs are dead so he's either mafia or SK.
I'm off out to drown my sorrows as my PhD thesis just got rejected. If I'm coherent later then I'll catch up before bed.
Why just "killed someone". Whether he's a tracker or a watcher, he would know who Ichabod killed.
I'm thinking TT should full claim even before Azarius, to ease my mind.
If you know what I mean.
February 4th, 2015, 00:28
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Just curious where we stand ATM
Tally as of post 1161:
4 votes: Ichabod ( Twinkletoes89, Jkaen, zakalwe, Molach)
2 votes: Azarius ( Jowy, Fenn)
1 votes: Meiz. ( Qgqqqqq)
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February 4th, 2015, 00:29
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(February 3rd, 2015, 20:03)Fenn Wrote: I suppose losing an extra town in the night would be bad, but he'd only be able to do that if he was SK, which I don't think SK!Ichabod would do.
What do you mean?
If you know what I mean.
February 4th, 2015, 00:38
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The mafia have their factional kill, with or without Ichabod. They only way he'd be able to increase the amount of death is if he's actually a Serial Killer - in which case he doesn't have anything to gain by double-crossing the village anymore, unless I'm missing something (possible!).
The gist is, if he's mafia gambiting it doesn't matter much if we lynch him today or tomorrow, but if he's a Serial Killer it is important if we trust him and delay his lynching, or don't. That said, we probably are going to lynch him today in lieu of any strong mafia reads on another player so this is probably academic.
Going to go to bed soon, so I'll only be able to read a response if it's posted right away.
February 4th, 2015, 00:41
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(February 4th, 2015, 00:27)zakalwe Wrote: (February 3rd, 2015, 12:59)Twinkletoes89 Wrote: I'm not going to full claim as I prefer the 50/50 uncertainty for mafia.
All I can say is that I guarantee that Ichabod killed someone last night. Both vigs are dead so he's either mafia or SK.
I'm off out to drown my sorrows as my PhD thesis just got rejected. If I'm coherent later then I'll catch up before bed.
Why just "killed someone". Whether he's a tracker or a watcher, he would know who Ichabod killed.
I'm thinking TT should full claim even before Azarius, to ease my mind.
I agree with this and Ichabod's point on the vague claim. TT should be clear town at this point, but all this mystery and the fact he was becoming the lynch of today make me vary of that. That could be quite bad in the long run. Full claim, which would hopefully give credit to him, would be excellent play at this point.
February 4th, 2015, 00:42
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Thanks, Fenn. Your read on Meiz?
If you know what I mean.
February 4th, 2015, 00:50
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I think Meiz is town at this point, he's contributed decently throughout the game and his D1 interactions with Lewwyn count for a lot in my mind. As for the idea that those interactions were manufactured, imo that's reading a little too much into it. Arguments between two players are rarely completely natural, and an argument can be a little unnatural while still being genuine, if that makes sense.
I want to suspect TT, but the fact that he specifically called out Ichabod for killing indicates that he is indeed a tracker or watcher. Possibly if TT and Ichabod are both mafia TT is saccing Ichabod to gain town points, but that's an extremely unlikely and risky maneuver and I don't think they'd attempt it if they were mafia together. More likely Ichabod is SK and TT is town.
February 4th, 2015, 00:51
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That's all from me for tonight. Happy hunting.
February 4th, 2015, 01:21
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Fenn is skating nicely, indeed. I can understand why Q would be looking for deep cover wolves. One thing that was distinctly odd to me was the way Lewwyn kept saying "Meiz and Zak" in all his retorts. It's possible that he wanted Meiz to gain towncred while setting me up.
Are you planning to defend against Q's accusations, Meiz?
The point about TT is that he could know (with near certainty) that Ichabod is a SK if he himself is the other SK and tried to kill him either N1 or N2. Although... I thought I read somewhere that bulletproof townies are not immune to SK fire, but it seems like they are. So in that case, he couldn't have been all that certain. Discarding bulletproof townie in favor of backup doctor isn't a clear-cut choice.
If you know what I mean.
February 4th, 2015, 01:35
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(February 4th, 2015, 01:21)zakalwe Wrote: Are you planning to defend against Q's accusations, Meiz?
I think the accusation depends on me & Lewwyn planning the conflict before the game started and pulling it off masterfully. Other than that, it's mostly criticizing my one liner points on peoples alignments without backing them up concretely. However they are day 1 reads and I still stand behind them. Regarding buddying up, I'm not going to deny buddying up with people I thought were town.
Regarding pushing for his claim, I saw half the town going after him and felt his claim would have been inevitable. It seemed like a good idea at the time, so we could move forward with the game. I think I dropped the thought once I found Lewwyn to be the best lynch.
In any case, I'd like everyone who hasn't to get a read on me at this point.
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