WW35: Not Another TPS Report [Game Thread]

[zakalwe]

I agree with Fenn that if Q is innocent, then Jabbz almost has to be scum.

I don't think Q can be scum alone because he would have claimed Mattimeo as his night one target.

[Qgqqqqq]

If Qgqqqqq is town, then:
-A Mafia Roleblocker exists and has targeted Q every night (makes sense if Q is Cop)
-So Jabbz must be Mafia, and Roleblocker if he's alone

Why can't there be two other scum, the roleblocker and the strongarm? I mean, I get not thinking it's the most likely scenario, but why isn't it possible?


I think I agree on Jabbz. I'm just not sold enough on Fenn as scum to want to kill two villagers today, and every scum-combo I consider finds its way to Jabbz as a part of it. If he's got a scum partner it's either Fenn or Jkaen, probably Jkaen given that last.

[Molach]

Fenns claim:
+If he is scum it was game over if any of us3 had the power.

-He was due to be lynched anyway.

[zakalwe]

I agree with Fenn that if Q is innocent, then Jabbz almost has to be scum.

This is not based on meta, btw. It's based on how day 1 played out. Reread that day with the assumption that Q is innocent and Jabbz reeks of scum.

Jabbz' day 2 play is also very scummy with the knowledge that TT is scum. Posted a big case against him initially, but then completely gave up on it towards the end of the day despite claiming very little time to even consider any of the other cases properly. But then instantly reaffirms that he really wanted TT to hang, and denies any part in making his wagon collapse.

Day 3 was about him making his doctor claim; I don't think the claim in itself should give him much town credit, although it was well presented. Sure, a townie could decide to claim at that point, but there wasn't any lynch pressure on him, either. The day's lynch was already decided, in Ichabod. On the other hand, a scum player *would* want to claim at that point, to maximize his towncred before there were too many flips. If Jabbz is town, he could have held out, hoping for the scum strongman to be lynched or killed, so that his own role would regain its usefulness.

I haven't seen him do any proper scumhunting after his claim, either. His only contribution is to repeatedly call me and Q scum without ever backing it up with anything substantial. (I believe I could point to many town points in my favor if I were forced to defend, but it never comes to that, because he never makes any substantial accusations.)

[Jkaen]

I still prefer the Fenn case, but at this point of the game I can't be sat on a meaningless vote.

Of the 2 up for lynch I prefer jabbz to Q

[Jabbz]

I'm voting fenn just so there is a chance he gets to pull his magic. If you guys lynch me, you will see I'm honest, and zak is trying to win by lynching me. By then it will likely be too late.

[Qgqqqqq]

What Zak posted. Particularly the TT bit - remember the night afterwards where we discussed the wagons, and he vehemently denied killing the wagon on TT, despite clearly doing so (which wasn't in and of itself a scumtell, but with the way he tried to avoid the association with protecting TT, and his subsequent flip, it is quite suspicious).

Jabbz, are you claiming a me/Zak scumteam, or just Zak? Because it feels like only moments ago you were pushing me in the extreme, with no mention of Zak.

[Jabbz]

As I mentioned before, I don't have much of a solid case on anyone. I worked a lot better when I had meta stuff to analyze, and absent that I'm not doing as well. Zak, as I've said many times before, has felt scummy to me all game. He hasn't really contributed much that I can tell, yet he is still around somehow. You Qg, I've been on again off again. I know I'm the Dr. You being a daily blocked Cop is theoretically possible. It's harder to believe that there is a rb and a strongarm both, and that they have lasted this long.

Quite frankly, I'm just annoyed because I feel that I am getting far more bs attention so far this game than anyone else, yet it's all little bullshit here and there. Yeah, I'm the doctor. Yeah they have a strongarm. Yeah I have nothing to prove it. But I did claim when I had ZERO pressure on me. I did it to get the conversation moving. I started a bus on TT that got him killed at the end of the day. I'm fucking town, but you guys are listening to scum highlight the few questionable things ive done this game, letting them make it sound like its some huge freakin deal, and ignore everything else I've done. I'm honestly to the point where I just don't much give a shit anymore. If you guys want to lynch me, freaking lynch me. Then you can all feel like dumbasses when I flip doc.

[Molach]

Fenn
If town he can decide.
If scum, good.

Sorry I just don't know.

I'm the mason btw.

Lurkers, post now who you are lynching. No hindsight-make fun of stupud villagers for you.

[Qgqqqqq]

I'm about to go to bed (wake an hour before lynch, hopefully), but:

I started a bus on TT that got him killed at the end of the day.

Puh-lease. The day TT got lynched it was because he got caught in a lie on who had/hadn't been visiting me. Before that, a bunch of people had pushed him/articulated suspicions on him, most notably Ichabod on day 3. You? You killed his lynch on day 2 after half-assedly pushing him for that day, and then busted your jaw trying to avoid being associated with protecting him.


Leaving that to one side, Jabbz, I really hope you're not getting too upset over this game. It is a game of pressure, and, rightly or wrongly, a bunch of people (myself included) are finding some things you've said/done quite suspicious. It's easy to feel fatigued, particularly this late into a long game. But it never helps the town to stop defending, so I hope you try to persevere as best you can.


Night, all.