(February 19th, 2015, 00:28)Doctor Saul Wrote: Zak's last few posts make it sound like his vote was more off a gut feeling off the whole of my post, and that I understand a little bit more. It's still wrong, though; he's scummy IMO but I'm still keeping my vote on Fenn. Fenn's latest posting of his itinerary felt over-the-top to me. Nobody was asking him why he had been gone -- the lurker pressure was given to Mattimeo and Sunrise (and earlier to me). He also didn't address my accusation.
Saul is in real danger of being lynched today. If he’s town, then he wants to avoid that by, as he says, nailing a wolf. Apparently he thinks he’s got one in Fenn, but he’s not questioning him, he’s not hammering pressure on. Nobody else is picking up the case either, so it’s looking like Fenn won’t hang. In that situation, shouldn’t Saul be either doubling down on getting movement on Fenn, or switching to pressuring secondary suspects?
How is it that you are blaming me for Fenn not answering my accusations? I'm not just going to hammer questions on him all day when he doesn't answer. But you don't seem to give an opinion on my accusations, only that nobody is picking up on them and for that matter they must be bad. Scum points for Gazglum for not caring about my argument, only caring about the results. And are you really saying that I must be scummy because nobody else is joining me on Fenn? So by that logic only people voting for bandwagon's are town and people who are looking at other options must be scum? That's awful Gaz.
(February 19th, 2015, 02:57)zakalwe Wrote: Sunrise, that first quote was a one-liner to quickly explain what I meant by formulaic. It's natural to include more nuance and some disclaimers when elaborating. I'm also not immune to strong conflicting opinions from Dtay and from Saul himself. I have no problem admitting that Saul could be innocent, and I really don't want to exaggerate the probability that he's scum. But at the moment I don't see any better cases, either.
I won't have much time for this today so my vote is likely to stay on Saul. Doesn't mean that I'm dead set on lynching him. I should have some time to reevaluate before the deadline.
(February 19th, 2015, 10:00)zakalwe Wrote: Still busy. Little has changed. The quiet day mostly just makes me want to double down on Saul. Still willing to consider alternatives, though. I don't get scum vibes from AdrienIer, at least not recently.
There are a couple people I felt before that I had a really good read on how they play town/wolf. Zakalwe is one of them. Town Zak would never waste a whole day fixated on one target. Even if he was confident that person was town, I've seen Town Zak move on to other people and explore other avenues, because Town Zak knows that time is limited. Wolf Zak though doesn't really care about any of that, he just wants to make an argument that looks good and get a safe lynch so he can build town cred. This all smells of Wolf Zak. I wanted to go after Fenn before because I still want Fenn to answer my accusation but nobody else seems to give a care that he hasn't been and that he largely disappeared after the bandwagon on me got going.
But the one thing I wanted to see was whether Zakalwe would explore other targets. Or heck, explore other avenues of attack: right now the only attack Zak has given all day is that one post I made had an inherent "scumminess" to it. Even when Town Zak has been confident about a target he's still interrogated other people. But this Zak? The only person he's seriously pushed is me. He's not questioning other people because he's got his safe mislynch and he's going to ride it all day long.
Zakalwe
And if you don't believe me today, dear god please go after him when you get that final proof that this was a bandwagon job. He's pretty good at backpeddling though. I've seen him do it many times before.
AND I STILL WANT SOMEONE TO ANSWER MY FENN QUESTION. If you're just going to ignore everything I say then maybe you should just lynch me. But please please please, remember how awful Zakalwe is acting afterwards.
So I'll go with Zakalwe too.
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
@Lewwyn: Mattimeo returned for another post, Doctor Saul started a push on zakalwe and 4 people voted for him all at once. Some suspicions raised against Gazglum.
I am really worried by this last minute swing to Zak. It seriously strikes me as planned/contrived early on. Zak is playing Zakish. It feels like wolves predicted this, laid a few breadcrumbs, and jumped on him last minute. Maybe I"m over reading it, but we went from Zak seems weird to, Zak must die, in the last 30 minutes of the day. I'm inherently distrustful of last minute swings like that.
(February 19th, 2015, 14:56)Rowain Wrote: With a few minutes before lynch absent Qg and lurking Matt just suddenly had the idea to jump on zak helped by BRick and fenn
Yeah I don't know how I feel about this last minute surge.
