WW 36 - Horrors in Kingsport [Game Thread]

[Jabbz]

This post makes more sense than the one I questioned. Every death provides context, but I found it odd you'd say there wasnt enough context when we just gotten a wolf. getting that first wolf is like the biggest piece of context you can get

Yes there is context here. But A: We were lucky, since most people seemed to be on him for the same reason I was, which was a lack of participation. B: The number of people involved with his lynch was over half the town. Since over half the town cant be scum, we still have to figure out who in that mess was doing it for cover, who was doing it to stay out of the limelight, and who was doing it because they thought it was a genuinely good idea. It doesn't provide as much information as we would like. Add to that how little Matt posted, and it means his trail doesn't leave much info. Assuming the lynched person was more active, which would seem to be the best choice for scum to make, there is going to be a bigger trail we can follow, and more we can figure out as a result. Plus what I said above to Lewwyn.

[Jabbz]

Oh, and GG Zak. I guess dying night one this time makes up for being one of the last 3 standing last game :P I wonder if that means I'm next?

[BRickAstley]

I still need to reread that section, but that is very much not what I said. I 100% believed from reading it that Zak was voting for Matt at the time. Despite the fact that he wasn't actually voting him, his attitude towards the Matt lynch was still something I find out of character.

GG Zak.

Ok so: You're saying that you did read up until the end, at least in some capacity, but at the end you then voted for zak based on the feeling you got from reading the thread over quickly and without knowing what exactly you had read that made you wanna vote zak?

Also I like that point about the whole policy lynch opinion novice.

[AdrienIer]

I'm rereading the zak wagon starter from yesterday and it feels so off... The only one whose post isn't scummy is Matt, I'm convinced town Matt would have wrote the same post. Really, after a day of attacking Zak Saul posts this :

How about instead of just agreeing with me that zak is scummy we vote for him as well?

and in the next 5mn 4 different people change their vote. 4 people, from 20:47 to 20:49 put their vote on Zak, taking him from super safe with 1 vote to a contender for the day lynch. That's way beyond unlikely. Especially from Q Fenn and Brick, 3 people who hadn't made a great impression on the first day (at least to the town in general). If I had to guess, out of the 5 Zak voters there were 1 or 2 scum (plus Matt), if there were 3 scum voting for Matt they had the power to save him (and it would mean they all went on him early on which is strange, I'd expect one or two to be creating deep cover not all of them).

My guess is that following that Saul post (not that I have an opinion on Saul right now, not anymore anyway) one or two scum decided to take a chance and jump in on Zak, but bad luck/timing made other people jump in at the same time and the wagon looked unnatural. The only one I kind of like is Lewwyn, he arrived super late and decided on almost no info that Zak was scummier than Matt, even going as far as stating that he had "town lean on Matt". That could be some weird WIFOM but it looks genuine. Out of the four other members of the original Zak wagon, there's a convenient wagon on Qgqqqqq that I'm happy to join.

[Doctor Saul]

Still re reading when I can grab moments at work but something else caught my attention:

Saul's play is the only stuff today that actually stands out as scummy. Everything else is kind of wishy washy, maybe scum, maybe joke, etc. This stuff though... It looks like someone trying to float on by without attracting much attention.

Why didn't you vote for me here Jabbz?

[Jabbz]

Why didn't you vote for me here Jabbz?

Because it was very early, because I don't know you and have no baseline to work with, and because I was in no hurry. Your reaction sealed the deal though, when you refused to back down, and started looking to justify it by claiming it was someone else you meant, after insisting, twice, that dtay was the guy. I'm pretty sure I've already explained this, but here you go none the less.

[Fenn]

It's not too unlikely that the horrors slew zakalwe because he suspected Q, but wasn't as vocal about it as he was his BRick case. Yeah wifom, but scum don't pick their targets out of a hat. Scum!Q would have good reason to want zakalwe out of his hair.

Doctor Saul caught a lot of heat Day 1 and chose not to push Mattimeo (who imo was scummy for the content of his posts in addition to lurking), but two townies in zak and myself. Suppose he could have just chosen poorly - I wasn't exactly obvtown- or didn't want to lynch Mattimeo for meta reasons, but it's still scummy to me on balance. Regardless I prefer the case on Qgqqqqq that novice and Brick have put forward today and last night. His actions look more suspicious in light of zak's town flip.

[Doctor Saul]

Why didn't you vote for me here Jabbz?

Because it was very early, because I don't know you and have no baseline to work with, and because I was in no hurry. Your reaction sealed the deal though, when you refused to back down, and started looking to justify it by claiming it was someone else you meant, after insisting, twice, that dtay was the guy. I'm pretty sure I've already explained this, but here you go none the less.

So the thing that convinced you to vote for me was when I acknowledged I was wrong about dtay?

[Jabbz]

That's a simplistic way of looking at it, but yes, it was your behavior as you insisted you were right, coupled with other arguments you made up to that point, that tipped the scale. Even then it was more a marker that you were suspicious, than a I want to lynch you. That didn't occur till it looked like dtay was overzealous in coming to your defense, despite the fact that he had a vote on you earlier.

[Doctor Saul]

Thanks for explaining. Your thought process wasn't evident to me in reading through that part so that helps.