WW38: The Story of the Stories

[Rowain]

I don't feel like defending anyone very strongly either, but I don't think any of Meiz, AdrienIer, Gazglum, or Molach have been more scummy than Fenn.

IMO Fenn was more panicked chicken when he was scum but maybe he has better tutors this game.


I do agree with Ichabolden

And all this village that went all brave lurker hunting on me certainly are afraid of voting for Krill, that is indeed lurking the hell out of this thread, but on the bad type of lurking.

Noone except Lewwyn have offered any comment on Krill. It's as if he doesn't exist at all.

[Lewwyn]

I am just thinking/typing here without too much introspection but I suppose I will need more convincing on Meiz.

Sounds like a wolf trying to ease his way onto a wagon.

Yes it does, actually. Looks a little better in context, though.

You're not wrong. It looks better in that post's context, but how about if you add this posts context from earlier:

Forgot to include Rowain, who also seems like his town-self.

Shadeun, as you state Mattimeo as a lurker, but also don't see much from me, why the strong preference to vote Matt?

Good point. There just hadn't been a single vote for Matt at that point and wanted to just investigate so we have more to go on later. Seems strange for Matt (who in my one other game was pretty aggressive in scum hunting, though scum himself) to make that point and do little talking themselves.

re: you Meiz. I very well may vote for you later, I wish to evaluate Gringrs "read the 8 posts Meiz has made" comment from a few pages back.

I will probably have a list of 4-5 and then vote for the person with the highest influence score of those today.

Emphasis mine.

[AdrienIer]

Rowain I'm travelling back home and was in class before that. Give me 45mn.

[Lewwyn]

Looking back at Fenn's posts, I'm not seeing much to be suspicious of. Yes, there's not a lot there to begin with, but to me he sounds exactly like the village Fenn we lynched a few games back on Day 2. Not in favor of lynching him.

[zakalwe]

Nice emphasis, Lewwyn. Yes, Shadeun is definitely scumming it up with those posts. Also a lot of "I want to reread/read more/get a better grip" comments.

Rowain, it's Krill's first game in a looong time so maybe he deserves a newbie pass today. I think he's approaching the game in a very bad way, but from what I've seen it also seems credible that he somehow thinks it's the right way.

I said before that he should start playing, and it's hard to comment any more until he actually does that. Is he scum because nobody is trying to lynch him? Maybe, but that's very circumstantial.

[Shadeun]

I am just thinking/typing here without too much introspection but I suppose I will need more convincing on Meiz.

Sounds like a wolf trying to ease his way onto a wagon.

My point is that Meiz is winning (well losing) the vote still and you guys (lew, matt, fenn) are just sitting there on him. Seems like reasons are not solid.

I'm not easing my way into anything, I have mostly defended Meiz and merely said it doesnt 'read well' but thats not how I'm going to vote. Mattimeo has said not much and remains on Meiz for now. Lewwyn, you are similar. For pretty much no reason than 'gut' for now.

That being said, I come more and more around to the Rowain way of voting for those to participate so we have a yardstick to measure them by in future days.

Hence I vote for Fenn and happy to switch to Krill if participation for either rises.

[Lewwyn]

I am still liking Fenn as a lynch for his overall low profile, weak pressure votes, and lack of meaningful contributions. Like I said before, I think it matches his wolf play from the last game. Obviously not a strong suspicion but it's a scum lean.

I don't feel like defending anyone very strongly either, but I don't think any of Meiz, AdrienIer, Gazglum, or Molach have been more scummy than Fenn.

I'll be leaving my keyboard soon.

You know what is funny is that Fenn has voted for Jowy>Ichabod>Meiz. I have voted for Shadeun>Ichabod>Meiz. I don't bring this up to say either of us were following each other, because in fact he got onto Meiz before me, but to say he has weak pressure votes would mean that my votes were weak pressure votes too. Which obviously I don't agree with. Now maybe he seemed more wishywashy and weak in the way he said it to you Zak? But then he was the same when he was a villager.

I think Meiz, Gazglum and Molach have all been more scummy.

I'm coming a bit off of Meiz though and I'm leaning a bit more Gaz and Molach-y. Its possible that the tone and style of Meiz's posts is more of an RP decision than one of alignment. My biggest issue with Meiz was that none of his posts were substantial. They were all more one liners that seemed to integrate into conversation without saying anything. Meiz's more recent posts have had more of a return to form however. Still that could be due to pressure and not due to any need to find scum.

[zakalwe]

Well I have to leave for a while now but I'll keep thinking it over.

Like I said before, Fenn just blindly moved on without seeming to ever consider the effect of his pressure vote. If you did the same, then that's scummy, too.

[Shadeun]

Nice emphasis, Lewwyn. Yes, Shadeun is definitely scumming it up with those posts. Also a lot of "I want to reread/read more/get a better grip" comments.

Rowain, it's Krill's first game in a looong time so maybe he deserves a newbie pass today. I think he's approaching the game in a very bad way, but from what I've seen it also seems credible that he somehow thinks it's the right way.

I said before that he should start playing, and it's hard to comment any more until he actually does that. Is he scum because nobody is trying to lynch him? Maybe, but that's very circumstantial.

Zak there is very little of 'I want to read more' in my posts. Usually at the end of a thought piece that's significantly longer that most other contributions.

Take a look at my history, I've got nothing to hide. Have even offered some details of my role.

I suppose I just want more than 5 people writing 90% of this and to be able to judge on what other people are saying. The evidence all around seems just very thin.

The perils of day 1.

[Meiz]

@Lewwyn, I know many disagree with this, but I personally find early game joke / pressure votes pointless (first 24 hours or so) . Due to my character, I had perfect excuse to avoid it. As for "returning to form", it's simply due to game having more content.