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lol, seriously wish you would have asked me before you dayvigged. :D
I think I have to dump the whole chat log into the thread for full disclosure now.
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Mattimeo
04-16-2015
08:38 PM ET (US)
In before zak's town and I get lynched today because of it and you're scum playing brilliantly
/-me consoles self with chicken
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Mattimeo
04-16-2015
06:33 PM ET (US)
That your vote on zak, demonstrating a lack of your being blocked?
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Mattimeo
04-16-2015
10:05 AM ET (US)
just did
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LewwynPerson was signed in when posted
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lol do you want to claim or not?
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Mattimeo
04-16-2015
08:58 AM ET (US)
...and maybe not claiming + voting zak now
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Mattimeo
04-16-2015
08:31 AM ET (US)
Probably claiming neighbour (and voting zak) in an hour or so, just before going to sleep.
If you disagree with the claiming neighbour at this point, speak up before then.
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Mattimeo
04-16-2015
08:14 AM ET (US)
Claims:
Krill I'm willing to take face value for now. Would still like him to contribute more than single line posts though...
Adrien's reasoning on switching you to pindi is a bit iffy, but when isn't it :/
zak's doesn't change the view of him at all. In fact, if we're looking at the ability in a meta-state, it's as likely to be scum as it is town - blocking, and a day late?
'Advice from Mycroft' I'm more inclined to group with 'traffic warden' than anything legitimate, especially with those activation conditions.
What's yours actually do, if you don't mind sharing a bit early?
Claiming neighbours some time today, do you think? After zak's "that sounds a lot like Mattimeo" last night, I'm not sure there's much benefit keeping up the bluff, if we think he's a scum.
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LewwynPerson was signed in when posted
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Yeah I decided it was pointless to claim, and the more I talked the more it felt like I wasn't going to die, and that it would be counter productive.
Today I think the lynch has to be Zak, novice, Sahdeun or Krill. I like pushing Krill to start to see where it goes, but Zak might be the best bet. I think the barbarian is in my head.
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Mattimeo
04-15-2015
11:38 PM ET (US)
I'm honestly this close to just quoting
http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthrea...#pid535774 and voting zak.
Like, every single one of those points is entirely disingenuous.
Also, you didn't claim?
No deaths last night is pretty good. Got something defensive happening, at least.
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So yeah I think I will claim you as my neighbor before the end of the night. I suspect you will not die tonight no matter your alignment. ^_^
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My current scum reads in no particular order:
Zak - bad cases, hit and run posting during Day 1, Nighttime buddying, his fenn case
novice - a lack of content so far and falling back on Fenn
Shadeun - Overall equivocation and the last vote seems villagery, but actually come across as a ploy in the end.
Middling:
Krill - is a complete unknown at this point. Could go either way.
Bob - I like his attack on me, feels very natural Bob. Zak also likes it which makes me think he's buddying him. However Bob didn't move off me in the end even when online. Though Bob's personality is stubborn and actually falls in with what he'd probably do as villager. I could elevate to suspected villager.
Mattimeo - talkative enough in chat, Gaz as scum neighborizor is a big meta point in favor, possibly voting with me to buddy, asking me what I think of Molach, but independently voted for Molach without me saying I was going to
Adrien - bad voting, but I could see a villager doing it, still think he's mostly village
Jowy - disappeared, RP cover, hard to evaluate
pindi - Early on overreaction, but actually putting effort, and actually now that I think about it his complaint about RP getting in the way is more a village complaint I think. I reverse suspicion on him now... null.
MOlach - could we have 2 scum on block? possible, nighttime posts were pretty good, probably leaning more village than not
Village lean:
Meiz - his response to our voting convinced me to move off and he landed convincingly on Gazglum, could be a ploy, but there was no need to bus this early and he wasn't the first vote Adrien who later switch off was first, as Scum I would hate to push a scumbuddy to 2 votes going into the final bit. placeholding a single vote might be fine though, so again no confirmation
Ichabod - very scum hunty now, did move off me which made me think maybe he voted for me as a joke in the first place, but looks like he's really hunting, shifting his vote and being active, village tells
VIllagers FO SHO:
Lewwyn - yay
Goreripper - obv scumhunting villager
Rowain - classic mistrustful village Rowain
Fenn - Feels like normal Fenn + good vote at the end
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Mattimeo
04-15-2015
02:46 AM ET (US)
Apart from deliberately misrepresenting things for fun and profit (though I'll admit that he generally does this, regardless), zak seems unusually tunneled on Fenn.
Scum lean I'm giving him at the moment if a lot higher than I can actually justify with evidence.
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LewwynPerson was signed in when posted
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Yeah, I will think about it. I probably am a strong target for tonight's kill. I'm not sure it's necessary to reveal you yet or not. If you are innocent, and the meta supports it we can act more like masons. If I die you should be able to claim neighbor as I doubt scum will try to counterclaim. But we have time yet.
Thoughts on Zakalwe?
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Mattimeo
04-14-2015
05:55 PM ET (US)
Well, Gaz being scum gives a fairly strong meta-clear for you, in my mind. Of course, BRick, so it's not exactly guaranteed, but for now I'm good assuming you're town. Especially given the switch to Gaz at the last minute, too.
How close to the night deadline can you be around? It's midnight for you, yeah? I'm thinking that meta-clear is enough to tip the scales to you being a likely target tonight.
Claim me as your neighbour just before the deadline, in case of death?
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Yeah, it was pretty funny.
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Mattimeo
04-14-2015
09:59 AM ET (US)
...well that's some nice timing on the Molach train
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Mattimeo
04-14-2015
09:32 AM ET (US)
Free to claim that us being neighbours does fit *a* theme (my ability granting access to this thread is "Commiserate", with flavour about having a hard time growing up) if you think it'll placate Rowain / if you otherwise think it could help, though.
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Mattimeo
04-14-2015
09:28 AM ET (US)
I'd prefer not to claim just yet. We do lose some of the utility if both sides are known.
If you start getting flak, or there's actually a concerted call that I come forward (rather than random 'hey, Lewwyn should say who his neighbour is so we can lynch them!'), then I'll do so; else might as well wait a bit.
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Meiz's posts seem to me to be mostly one liners, short posts that don't really give much away about what's he thinking, but rather insert himself into a conversation already happening giving the appearance of interaction.
Goreripper reads scumhunter and village to me.
Molach reads scum lean based mostly on his vote for adrien calling him opportunistic which I just don't see.
Do you want to reveal yourself as my neighbor? I was thinking to let you make that call and I wouldn't divulge who you were just yet. We can work together like masons as long as our views align.
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Mattimeo
04-14-2015
06:45 AM ET (US)
I do like zak's deduction that your neighbour must be Krill
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Mattimeo
04-14-2015
03:47 AM ET (US)
What's your actual case on Meiz? Posting solely to not be obviously lurking?
Would also like your take on Goreripper and Molach.
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Mattimeo
04-14-2015
03:47 AM ET (US)
Gah, you know how bad I am at reads on d1 :/
For what it's worth
Adrien - confusion at neighbours leading into suggestion to lynch characters that could be suspicious. Both fairly unnecessary; easily explained by google, and easily explained how wrong by the setup.
Balancing, though, is the fact that he did try to get things going after the 'joke' phase. Not safe town, but not enough to lynch on yet. Dislike the wagon, for that.
- does have a good stance on influence ie. don't let it factor in until wagons are well established and you're trying to pick the least bad of unpalatable ones.
pindicator - seems depressed (well, Eeyore) but otherwise fairly standard. Not someone I really get reads on without actual data beyond simple interactions with people of unknown alignment.
Has a point on Molach - so dumb it deserves votes, but so dumb a scum is unlikely to do it.
Ichabod - really can't tell how much is just Ichabod being surly, and how much is RP.
Advocating delaying removal of lurkers to the point in the game where we actually have the ability to make reasoned lynches is pretty terrible.
As is the reasoning given for voting pindi.
But then, I generally find Ichabod argumentative, and often not having the best ideas, regardless of what faction he represents at the time.
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LewwynPerson was signed in when posted
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Your thoughts on Ichabod, Pindicator and Adrien?
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Yeah possibly was commenting about me not responding to Shadeun right away? Anyway I asked him direct so we'll see soon I suppose.
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Mattimeo
04-13-2015
08:09 AM ET (US)
Yeah, that was my point; if there are other neighbour pairs there's probably only one scum between all if them, and thus it's more likely that it's in one of the other pairs than it being you.
On a second read, zak's post could be general - if we have any other neighbour pairs in the game, they don't look to be coming forward. Depends on if he's using the royal 'we' or not
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And yeah I'm making up numbers because we haven't gotten any confirmations or anything, but it feels right for a game like this.
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Looked like it.
I sincerely doubt that each neighbor pair would be scum/town so if there are say 3 neighbor pairs, 2 pairs might be townies and 1 pair might be a a town/scum pairing.
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Mattimeo
04-13-2015
07:54 AM ET (US)
...was that zak just claiming a neighbour?
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Mattimeo
04-13-2015
07:52 AM ET (US)
I'm basically in the same boat as you, except last time I had a neighbour I was the scum. And novice nailed me on d1 or d2, I think.
Your taking the initiative and fishing for more pairs in the main thread gives a town lean, at least.
I'd also be interested to see if there are any other pairs out there. Would tend to imply that there's one scum of all the neighbours, thus more likely to be in a different pair than you, in ours.
Course, there's still a decent chance you're town anyway, and neighbours is just to help us paranoia-prone characters do so, rather than have a safe ally.
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Basically I don't trust you, but I would love if I could trust you. Problem is, last time I had a neighbor he was scum.
Any doubt as to why our mistrusting characters were put together in this thread is clear to me now.
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LewwynPerson was signed in when posted
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The fact that you and I both have abilities outside of our neighboring makes me think there could be more pairs of neighbors throughout the game... Increasing the likelihood that you are not scum based on the fact that I'm innocent.
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Don't post in the main thread that you're my neighbor yet. I want to see if anyone else besides the two of us have neighbors.
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I do have an ability, but I don't much trust people what with people trying to kill me all my life.
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Mattimeo
04-12-2015
10:46 AM ET (US)
But anyway, I do have an ability other than just being a Neighbour. Would be interested to know if you do as well.
If you do, and are willing to share its details, I would do the same.
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Mattimeo
04-12-2015
08:37 AM ET (US)
Ah, Neighbours rather than Masons. Always fun
I would be glad to be your neighbour. Us poor neglected teens have to stick together, right?
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LewwynPerson was signed in when posted
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Hello friend, won't you be my neighbor?