WW38: The Story of the Stories

[Meiz]

Yes, but the reason why he gets that result is that he tracks before your switch (and I watch before your switch)

[AdrienIer]

Well then it makes no sense and someone's lying. I still think you're the most likely one

[Rowain]

I think this doesn't provide us with further insight now.

In the meantime I would like if we could lynch Shadeun today. He has killed and IMO only brazen scum or a moronic villager would have taken this shot. Especially if you consider that a SK is usually nightkill immune.

From the last game I got the impression that Shadeun is a sharp mind and dangerous player with a liking to play with peoples mind. For me he is without doubt the best lynch.

[Bobchillingworth]

Yeah, fine, Shadeun. Killing Krill didn't make much sense.

[Molach]

My role name (it does not seem to fit the others' pattern) is Moses, of the snake-eating staff. My role power is "staff of miracles". So I'm not sure what a role-name reading would return. Innocent is not mentioned in role name or power, just a sentence on its own, saying I win with the innocents. It also says I shall suffer no schemer to live, no mention of anyone else.

Shadeun can perhaps explain why kill Krill. But Brazen SK indeed, to make that last-minute shift to Gazglum last night. If he really is the SK, he also claimed the classical SK claim - vigilante. If Shadeun is SK, I'd say he has mastered the "be as brazenly scummy as possible, so villagers will start saying "too scummy to be scum"" pretty damn fast. Also, SK has no QT with friends to learn from.

Did I understand correctly that one of AdrienIer, Meiz or Pindicator is lying? Or just latter two? If this is certain, then I'd be wary of lynching outside this circle of untrust.


I've also had some thoughts about this SK hunt - we seem to be in full & utter agreement that we are hunting one final SK. I worry and think we might at least consider other options.

Jowy: If Jowy spoke the truth, there were 3 scum. They had crappy powers. They tried to kill Ichabod night 1. Jowy was fed up with playing and got himself modkilled.

Facts(?) imo are that we have killed 3 scum so far. They had pretty crappy powers. Jowy was probably next on the lynch-list. However we have been told at least one lie. If there were only 3 scum, they would have succeeded in killing Ichabod day 1 - unless Ichabod lied about night powers. If target was indeed Ichabod, either he is night-kill immune or they sent Bob to make the kill and he was blocked by me. So if target was Ichabod, either bob is a last scum or Ichabod is the SK.

Jowy might have lied about Ichabod being target. But if there were only 3 scum, why bother? Either the game was going to end at Jowy's modkill, or there was a SK - not clear-cut that Jowy would lie in this position. He might, certainly.

Other explanation is that there is a 4th scum, in which case it makes perfect sense to lie about targetting Ichabod.

It is slightly worrying - either Jowy lied for the heck of it, or else something is fishy.

Gringr, did you get a message from BRick at the end of day 1, about this wench business? How was it presented? (My message from Bob came at nightfall with the header "A voice from the ether" ...bringing me the message about targetting Bob tonight)
Your night action-power was simply to do what BRick said, more or less? Visit the one wench. BRick knew numbers of wenches from list of our roles. So this game was designed that Matt would be confirmed innocent and village would have 2 day-vigs and one night-vigilante. If all vigs are being truthful. Even worse for schemers.

I'll vote tomorrow - not sure what at this time. I'd prefer to lynch a liar as things stand now.

[pindicator]

I'm pretty confident Meiz is lying about either his power or results. He's been constantly spinning his results as meaning I must be lying and meaning I must be scan immune. The fact he hasn't asked Brick about how his power interacts with redirection like Rowain immediately thought to do makes me suspect he isn't telling the whole truth to us. Rather he's only interested in mislynching me. Only today when he's gotten votes on him has he begun to backtrack and say my explanation may be correct. To be fair I didn't even think my explanation for how actions resolve was right but Meiz wasn't interested in figuring out the truth then; he only wanted to spin his results as"evidence" that I was scum.

[Shadeun]

So questions:
@Shadeun. Any other power besides your NK?

No other abilities.

How many mafia characters can use more than one action a night? Clearly I have been 100% honest about my power and noone else is claiming to have killed krill.

NOW Rowain, do you think I have an ability that blocks all scans? This would seem to be a game-breaking passive ability and (to my knowledge) pretty bullsht to have as an active ability while killing.

Clearly you can't believe that I am bother moronic and also a dangerous player. Why, as a SK would I claim my powers and not change my story from (day 1 i think?). Then announce I was going to kill and go through with it last night.

Went with Krill in a tossup between him and meiz (per Gringr's list) and thought he was a decent target/some things in his story didn't make sense.

In fact: I dont believe we've had a claimed role scan that works for the whole game right? The self proclaimed seers have a lot to answer for.

For my money: we have a cult and you become seer immune upon joining, this is the only reasonable explanations.

Staying on Meiz though because his entire game has reeked of changing stories. One of the seers is lying.

Rowain, you see increasingly desperate and yet don't confront the idea that there is more than 1 scummy type person alive. Your power has been useless sofar this game right?

Am off the the beach ladies and gentlemen. Be on later.

[Shadeun]

Id really like to be allowed to edit my posts for spelling & grammar

[Bobchillingworth]

Wouldn't a cult want to recruit you ASAP, either to gain your killing power or remove it from the game, depending on if cultists get nerfed or not?

[Shadeun]

I think cult knows I'm easy lynch. Which has remained true since I misplaced my faith in Gaxglum. Also, now that I think about it, if I am SK why would I try and save gazglum?

The lack of seer action is just making this game a crapshoot (as matt and my kills prove)

Matt FWIW your vote on me is a bit OMGUS given my kill on krill was no more shit than your own townie kill. Especially since I had several people telling me to use it and you just randomly blew your load.