(April 28th, 2015, 23:40)Northstar1989 Wrote: In the meantime, if there's a delay, just be patient... There shouldn't be nearly as many long delays now that I've dropped by other games, but now and then a missed turn *will* happen (which necessarily means a 24-hour hold as my play-windows are only every 24 hours)This is what I was getting at. There should be no missed turn now and then, especially with Old Lion there. If you don't trust him with the micro, find someone else if you can, but we're not putting up with these 24 hour holds anymore. Thats precisely what we've been trying to tell you. Shit happens at times, but it should be VERY rare, and far between, not every now and then. You clearly didn't take my suggestion of either dropping out or giving Old Lion more control seriously. If you aren't getting to the save on a particular day, Old Lion should have free reign to take care of it and you will have to deal with his decision making. (This assumes he is willing to wait around like that which isn't fair to him, and you certainly have been completely disagreeable with the dude). In fact, with that in mind, whoever can get to it first should play it.
(April 28th, 2015, 23:40)Northstar1989 Wrote: Tell that to Q. And Bob. They constantly told me (in my other games) I'm a lousy, horrible player with no sense of strategy and no idea what I'm talking about. And Kragroth backed them up in that (without participating himself- but tacitly agreeing at many times). Either they're right or they're wrong- you guys can't have it both ways.Okay, so I have so many problems with this statement, I don't know why you're bringing personal beefs with outsiders into this. I merely remarked that you were first in the rankings. I'm not saying you're the best player here or the worst, I don't get what you're implying by this 'you guys can't have it both ways.' I'm saying you've been lucky so far and done a good job managing your city, and two turns of the AI/Old Lion putting a new citizen on a suboptimal tile clearly hasn't affected that. Clearly the other players aren't going to handicap themselves so I won't either, and like a said above, you clearly don't need it. Let it go.
(April 29th, 2015, 02:41)Ellimist Wrote: I am only willing to continue without replacing you under the following non-negotiable conditions:
- If you have a play window that fits between Kragoth's declared window and Tasunke's declared window.
- If you can guarantee that there will be no more turnpace problems, that you will reliably and promptly play any turns that arrive during or before your declared window.
- If you receive a turn at an inconvenient time(outside of your window), you will reliably play the turn and send it onward at your next available opportunity. There should be no more delays over 24 hours.
- You should start checking the tracker website to verify that the save was passed on properly after you send it. This is one of the intended purposes of the tool, and something that should be a habit to help prevent "oops" delays.
- If, for some reason, you are unable to play a turn in a timely manner, you will promptly notify us of the delay either in this thread or by email. This should be a very rare event.
- If you foresee that you will have trouble meeting these obligations alone, you will work with a teammate to make sure that they are nonetheless met. It can be (but does not have to be) Old Lion; it can be anyone who is willing to work with you but I will insist that you treat both Old Lion and others with genuine respect and courteousness. I personally would not mind if a spoiled general lurker volunteers for this role.
- There will be an end to the drama. You have exhausted my supply of patience. If you think something is unfair, convince your teammate or a lurker to bring it to our attention. At the least, Kragoth and I are very unlikely to give it a fair hearing if you present more complaints in this thread. If a genuine injustice has occurred, I would very much prefer to hear about it from someone else because it will be easier for me to remain objective and fair about it.
- You will not hold the turn hostage in an attempt to pressure us.
I see nothing wrong with these conditions. Also, the not holding the turn hostage to pressure everyone else should be a given, and I still can't believe Northstar thought that was acceptable, even after his password was cracked.
(April 29th, 2015, 02:41)Ellimist Wrote: I refuse to do anything idiotic such as deliberately wasting production, but if you can guarantee these conditions, I personally do not mind going back to whichever turn you claim had errors occur. (Tasunke, Saruman, and Kragoth would also have to agree to rewind.)I have said this before, but I am absolutely not wasting all of our time by replaying turns when the current turnaround rate is so slow. Theres nothing Northstar or anyone else can do to convince me that his city micro for 2 turns is worth an approximate week of make up time.
