WW39. Escape from the Congo.

[AdrienIer]

Also note that Rowain and Zak's joke votes where to each other.
Not sure what to do with that bit of intell actually. Maybe it's actually in favor of one of them being town ?

[AdrienIer]

Zak's mistake

In a matter of 5 minutes, coming from asking novice to vote for me and not Bob

Why not AdrienIer?

to letting me live by switching to Bob

Took you long enough. Bob.

is actually more damning than the vote alone (which I can't complain about, I'm alive thanks to that).

Therefore I call this post during the night complete BS :

Rowain, I was waiting for AdrienIer to give me options by moving his vote. I didn't think anyone stood out as a clear mislynch so I wasn't willing to take so many chances. As for why I was still willing to move my vote, I didn't have a ton of confidence in any of my fellow AdrienIer voters

I think you wanted a clear majority of people on me (would have been 5/2/1/1 if novice had joined you and I hadn't moved last minute) to leave less trace. Because novice moving to me would have clearly reduced your options. Then, realizing that it wasn't going to happen you decided to keep me as easy meat for D2. Zak

[novice]

AdrienIer, Zak wasn't asking me to vote for you. He was just asking me why I didn't want to.

[AdrienIer]

Well yeah but he was still pushing you towards it. IDK maybe I'm overreacting ?

[Shadeun]

What I fear here is that Zak and Rowain have moved into the mutual accusation spiral, but will miraculously both back off at the last. They've both left their options open to do that, they've both put a preliminary bid in on Shadeun which can be cashed in if his big mouth gets him in trouble.

My big mouth getting me in trouble? When has that ever happened. All know I am a cautious poster with meticulous attention to structure grammar and other detail. (j/k)

Anyway,
To the novice/gazglum point

Still, Gazglum, w.r.t. Zakalwe you are simply levelling accusation based on this assumption (which I also made)

Rowain + AdrienIer doesnt work.

I think also that Zak + Adrien doesn't work that well either after Adrien's post. But I suppose this could be covering

I also think Matt has done enough here to remove my pressure/meta votes removal. I still think (perhaps) it is easiest for town to win if we lynch matt (simply because Matt seems least likely to be killed at night)

So Rowain because play has been different to usual and a lack of pressure placed on matt yesterday just seems completely out-of-the-usual.

Zakalwe was a close second and didn't vote because AdrienIer's post convinced me Zak+Adrien more unlikely. Therefore the argument for Zak working in 2 combinations (+adrien, +rowain) while rowain works in 1 (+zak) no longer stands. Also: I rate rowain+matt to be more likely than zak+matt (gut feel here, just because rowain more).

I keep my town lean on Novice and have essentially bought into Gaz (actually originally Zak made this point D1) argument on Rowain.

[novice]

Well yeah but he was still pushing you towards it. IDK maybe I'm overreacting ?

I think you are. I had already stated clearly that I wouldn't vote for you. His question wasn't going to change my mind. He was just asking what my reasons were.

[Shadeun]

Further to the above: looking at Rowains pattern of posting yesterday morning after the night really rubbed me the wrong way. Rowain (that I have in my mind) would'nt have held back and instead posted in the morning (GG Lewwyn), as I did, and the waited 3 hours until after Gazglum posted launched the day before commenting. Doesn't seem like rowain to hold off an attack like that.

I've really ignored Gaz + Adrien and certainly there is a lot to think about. I think another read is in order (clearly AdrienIer has done this today and actually making a pretty big effort). AdrienIer would've been better dead day one (sadly, even given me moving more town on him) but that is easy to say with hindsight I suppose.

I dunno. My overarching feeling in this game is that a decent strategy to cross-accuse your scumbuddy sometime late D1//D2 could easily leave a likely pair off our list. This is why I like the pure-playbased vote on Rowain more than the more-meta Zakalwe case. Even if Zakalwe's vote-switch was the standout scum move of the game.

[Rowain]

Rowain you moved Zak from your "scum lean if Adrien is town" to "scum lean if Adrien is scum". How come ?

The first quote is from before the lynch the other after zakalwe moved from you to lynch villager Bob.

Why are you trying to paint me black with such fabrication?

The Rowain-Zak interactions are weird indeed. Rowain attacks Zak during the night but doesn't vote for him at dawn. He actually said something weird here :

So I'm currently inclined to vote zak but I also fear a mattimeo + Shadeun combination. Especially Shadeun is a hot candidate IMO.

Followed by a Shadeun vote. Now he's changed to Zak in an complete, sudden turnabout :

How is my vote now a sudden turnabout after attacking zak before?

Also note that Rowain and Zak's joke votes where to each other.

What joke-votes? My vote was no joke at all.

[Rowain]

AdrienIer would've been better dead day one (sadly, even given me moving more town on him) but that is easy to say with hindsight I suppose.

I do think we would have been better served by killing Adrien yesterday (no matter what his role is).

[Gazglum]

Long have I preached the word against the Beast in our midst, and now the light of understanding dawns in the eyes of the flock!

Is that all you have to comment at the moment Rowain? Another empty juxtaposition post and a nice bit of poetic defense?

I see a Rowain and I want to paint him black,
No lying anymore, I want him to turn black...