[PB22 Spoiler] Joey and Borsche puke on the funny pages

[GermanJoey]

Whoa, you can rebase tactical nukes beyond their range? What the fuck, is this a bug?

[GermanJoey]

Oh my god you can do it with guided missiles too. They have an attack range of 4 and show a rebase range of 4 too, but will actually allow a rebase range of 36, just like ICBMs. FUCK! No wonder he was able to bring so many tacts to our last war right after getting fission!

[GermanJoey]

Code:

ICBM: No longer unlimited range, but long enough so that they will out distance your army and navy easily, and they can be rebased. Loses the nuke tag. Does not need Manhattern project to be built.
iCost: 450h
iAirCombatLimit: 75
iAirCombat: 160
iCollateralDamageLimit: 75%
iCollateralDamageMaxUnits: 12
iAirRange: 36

Tactical Nukes: Now S80 1shot units that can bombard units, cause collateral damage to 5 units, cannot be intercepted. Loses the nuke tag. Does not need Manhattern project to be built. Full list of changes:
iCost: 200h
iAirCombatLimit: 75
iAirCombat: 80
iCollateralDamageLimit: 75%
iCollateralDamageMaxUnits: 5
iAirRange: 4

Guided Missiles: Can bombard units, tiles and cultural defence, cause collateral damage to 2 units, cannot be intercepted. Full list of changes (underline means original stat, for comparison):
iCost: 60h
iBombRate: 16
iAirCombatLimit: 75
iAirCombat: 40
iCollateralDamage: 100
iCollateralDamageLimit: 50%
iCollateralDamageMaxUnits: 1
iAirRange: 4

This also explains how Gavagai was able to gift the first 3 tacts to 2metra despite my seeing no nearby subs.

[GermanJoey]

I'm quite sure now that Gav has a pocket Great Artist that he's gonna use to bomb Maracana. I've got this terrible feeling that I'm gonna lose another big stack... that said, it looks only like he has like 50 tanks that could hit me this turn. So, maybe I'm actually fine? I wish I had more Anti-tanks at that site but I can't get a lot there until next turn, unfortunately.

[Qgqqqqq]

Whoa, you can rebase tactical nukes beyond their range? What the fuck, is this a bug?

Nope, this has been the case since vanilla.

[GermanJoey]

Whoa, you can rebase tactical nukes beyond their range? What the fuck, is this a bug?

Nope, this has been the case since vanilla.

what on earth

[Qgqqqqq]

It's very well known, and one of the main reasons that tactical nukes are the weapons of choice over ICBMs (at least, in unmodded civ).

[GermanJoey]

Very well known, from the myriad civ4 games that actually reach a combat situation in the modern era. Right.

[Bobchillingworth]

Surely you don't mean to imply that nobody reaches the modern era in Civ IV. Even MP games here manage that with some frequency.

[GermanJoey]

realms beyond has played more than 100 pbem and pb games. in how many of those have nukes been built?

as for single player, ive probably over a thousand games of it and can remember exactly two where I built ICBMs, and both were on maps that didn't wrap in either direction.