WW40 - Game Thread

[zakalwe]

Ok, so the torture warped him from a redirector into a voteblocker and then he was recruited during the night?

Even I have to concede it's starting to get a bit implausible.

It's the warping from a redirector into a voteblocker that is least credible to begin with, in my mind. And I think he must have had the Medusa character name all along.

[novice]

If scumJabbz did a no kill he was at least aware of the consequences.

No deaths, interesting. Anyone have any observations to make about their actions etc? Not killing is definitely not beneficial to the scum in this round.

So I guess the "facts and gut" story must be:
Jabbz is Zeus, a shapeshifter, who can impersonate Perseus (scans as town) and Medusa (role- and voteblocker). His power(s) are described as shapeshifting into someone and then visiting a player in that shape. He also has a delayed kill. His game plan is to delay kill someone, frame Zak, lynch him on D3, dodge a doctor on N3 and get to D4 with 3 players left and one of them voteblocked (and MJW voteblocked or dead). And then win on tiebreak. Somehow.

Seems a bit much.

[zakalwe]

It does seem a bit much. I think I prefer the minion theory, or Jabbz just being a third party who wasn't even trying to frame me to begin with. The roleblock could be real for all I know. I do know that I was visited by Medusa, and not Perseus.

In any case, I have to try to put this game aside soon and focus on other things. If we can't explain everything that's going on by Jabbz being the last scum, then lynching me before him is inherently risky. On the other hand, everything is supposedly accounted for if his story is true, so in that case you can afford to lynch him first. He says he's totally ok with it, too; so again, just take him up on that offer.

I haven't been tortured so I don't think I should be suspected of being a minion. And even if I were a minion, I would just eat the lynch if I was facing off with another player who I knew to be lying. So there's no reason for me to put in this much effort unless I'm town. I must either be town or the last scum.

[zakalwe]

I would just eat the lynch if I was facing off with another player who I knew to be lying.

Well, you don't know that I know that he's lying, so maybe this doesn't make any sense.

[novice]

If we can't explain everything that's going on by Jabbz being the last scum, then lynching me before him is inherently risky. On the other hand, everything is supposedly accounted for if his story is true, so in that case you can afford to lynch him first. He says he's totally ok with it, too; so again, just take him up on that offer.

This is true. If Zak is town Jabbz is Medusa and there could still be a Zeus around. OTOH if Jabbz is town Zak is probably Zeus.

Jabbz

Your call, Adrien.

[AdrienIer]

Jabbz

I don't see how a four gods team can work, so either Zak's the last god or Jabbz's the last god or Jabbz got turned when he was tortured and it's Jabbz+someone. Jabbz may be Zeus with a jack of all trades style power : each night he chooses a power (transforming into someone), he used his godfather power on D2 (novice did Serdoa's message say Jabbz was really Perseus ?) and his medusa power for N3/D3.

[novice]

No, Serdoa's message didn't mention any hero names, it just said that Jabbz is a hero.

[AdrienIer]

So all we have surrounding the Perseus name is Jabbz's word ?

[novice]

So all we have surrounding the Perseus name is Jabbz's word ?

That's true.

[AdrienIer]

Ok Jabbz's name argument is moot then. Add to that the possible Zeus power I described 4 posts ago and Jabbz's list :

The naming convention being used, the power that supposedly only tells him the character that visited, not the player, the very concept of the third god being a monster instead of a god, and everything that implies when taking balance into consideration.

becomes a lot less impressive.