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WW #43 - The Asha'man

I'm getting bored of splitting hairs down to the atomic level with you Rowain, so I'm going to stop engaging for a while after this. I already said that I think that Prometheus thing is scummy. He implies he has to hide his role, then it turns out to not be very powerful. I thin Prometheus is scum. I think everything he says is a lie. That is what I think about Prometheus. What do you think abotu Prometheus?

It is possible that we could clear some townies with role claims, I agree. I think we do not need to do that today, I think we have plenty of leads. I think it hurts more than it helps. Yet again, this is a tactical disagreement.

Every time we talk, I refute you and then point to scummy things in players. You just refute me back and stop there, because you apparently can't find any scum. You even told Jkaen 'stop voting for me and hunt some scum'. You haven't even met the first part of that criteria and voted for someone.
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Stayed up way too late playing Stellaris with Az. Ugh. Deadline in 7h44m. See you then.
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I can agree that Prometheus looks a bit coached. His claimed actions and suspicions are not unbelievable but the way he presents it is way off. Blocking Adrien makes sense but not to "see what happens". So the claimed motivation is off. SK Meiz killing Adrien is also possible but he's not selling that idea very convincingly.

I am pretty happy to let him swing.

I think Fenn responds well to Novice by counterattacking. But I don't think Novice's case is bad. Not to the point of being scummy, like people are saying. Scum do need fake claims, and Vigilante was up for grabs.
If you know what I mean.
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Tally as of post 493:

Lynch votes
3 votes: Prometheus (Gazglum, zakalwe, Lewwyn)
2 votes: novice (Meiz, Fenn)
1 votes: Rowain (Jkaen)
1 votes: Fenn (novice)
1 votes: Meiz (Prometheus1998_)

Voting history:
Jkaen Wrote: Rowain
Meiz Wrote: novice
zakalwe Wrote: Fenn
Lewwyn Wrote: novice
novice Wrote: Fenn
Gazglum Wrote: Prometheus
novice Wrote: Prometheus
zakalwe Wrote: Prometheus
Fenn Wrote: Dp101
novice Wrote: Fenn
novice Wrote: Fenn
Fenn Wrote: novice
Lewwyn Wrote: Prometheus
Prometheus1998_ Wrote: Meiz

Green votes
No votes.
If you know what I mean.
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(July 10th, 2016, 03:40)Prometheus1998_ Wrote: Before requests to know my night action comes in, I'll tell you now. Last night, I blocked AdrienIer, as per his request. I wanted to see what happened. In hindsight, it's obvious why he wanted to be blocked: he had no active powers.
Right, so Prometheus killed Adrien and Fenn is taking "credit".
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Novice why would that happen, if they are both scum why wouldnt Promethus have made the vig claim just incase one of them was tracked. your theory makes no sense

I am now at the point that Novice seems a reasonable vote if my first choice of Rowain isnt going to happen
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Hence Prometheus claims to have blocked him.
If you know what I mean.
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That is a good point, Jkaen.

Gazglum, I must say I'm surprised to see me appearing on your scum list. But ok, let me get back in line. It is indeed simple according to Occam - We have a scummy player claiming to have visited the only fatality of the night, for no good reason.

Prometheus
I have to run.
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Rowain is actually doing a good job of being his usual grumpy self without giving us too much in terms of concrete suspicions. I'll give you that, Jkaen/Gazglum.
If you know what I mean.
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(July 10th, 2016, 02:46)Fenn Wrote: By the way, who do think my hypothetical scum partners are that they would heartily approve of me making a Vig claim in the middle of Day 2 for no reason? Do you even have any other suspects?

Like Rowain said, getting a "confirmed" vig wins the game.

Prometheus has been a suspect for me throughout the day. A scum team of him, you and Meiz or Dp is my working theory, I guess. Thinking further about why you would claim vig instead of Prometheus, it doesn't look like Prometheus has such a claim in him. He can't even claim Roleblocker convincingly.
I have to run.
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(July 10th, 2016, 10:53)zakalwe Wrote: Rowain is actually doing a good job of being his usual grumpy self without giving us too much in terms of concrete suspicions. I'll give you that, Jkaen/Gazglum.

I mean, I'm slightly surprised more people aren't chiming in on this one. I think Rowain's basically stopped playing the game completely. After the lynch he launched an ill-thought out attack on Jkaen, and once that was batted away he just stopped doing anything except ask people for their roles. I mean, isn't Rowain supposed to like pressuring people? He hasn't done anything. Nothing at all.

What he is trying to do is get me into a big argument over claims with him, so he can focus his attention on that. But since he seems to feel I am not scum, this is clearly unproductive. It is exactly the sort of thing scum like to do to build content and 'be involved' without actually hunting.
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