February 28th, 2010, 22:10
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I went ahead and ended turn for us, FYI.
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The alliance drama begins:
Quote:Hi Nice Shot
As per the information agreement, we have met India 2 turns ago near
Krill's border to our SW and Ruff slightly NW of our border the turn
before that. We were going to tell you in the chat that we wanted for
the weekend but that didn't happen.
The reason we wanted to chat with you is we would like to make you a
proposal. As this is a tech trading game, you probably have assumed
that there will be a tech trading cartel at some point in the game.
Since your team doesn't have many contacts (just the A4 until DIM
recently), you probably haven't heard much about tech trades. However,
there is a tech cartel forming and your team is in danger of being
locked out of it.
However, the A4 along with the other members of the tech cartel do not
think that your team should be locked out, so this message is an
invitation to join our tech cartel. I can't tell you much about it
until you commit, but we can tell you 2 things. Firstly, the A4, DIM,
Krill, Ruff and India are some of the members of the cartel. The other
thing is that you will need to contact as many of us as fast as you
can, particularly Krill (since he is the primus inter pares of the
alliance) who is located to your W. However, we would be happy to
co-ordinate meetings to help you achieve this.
I don't want to rush your team into making a desicion, but we need to
hear your response ASAP. Could your team get back to us regarding this
proposal by the end of T56 at the latest?
If you have any questions about the alliance that you would like us to
clarify, we would be happy to answer them.
Enough Talking!
WarriorKnight of A4
On the same turn, we got a note from Swiss/Capac of Mali, apparently they found us as well.
I wonder if Swiss is part of an alliance as well? I'm a little scared that Krill's alliiance is already 5 teams strong. It seems like a 6th team could be excessive. Once the in-laws are gone I will need to put thoughts together more firmly. We need to discuss further.
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Sent the following to Mali:
Quote:It is with great pleasure that we meet Keef and all of the Malinese people. We share your desire for sustained peace.
What is the diplomatic picture like in the south? What teams have you met? Have any partnerships formed yet?
It seems that to our north are Egypt, India, the HRE, and the Ottomans.
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T54 played but not ended. I want to discuss diplomacy some first.
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I am chatting in gmail with DIM right now.. they are giving me directions to others (India & Egypt). Can't stick around long for now but will be back early in the evening.
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Update: sounds like Krill is 4 or so tiles west of Lakewood's borders. If DIM sends him, we should meet Egypt very soon, and I think our greeting message should bring up the tech cartel, one way or another.
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Quote:ehmed: hehe
didn't see you guys were online
thanks for the screenshot
Sent at 2:47 PM on Monday
me: No problem. Does that give enough context to be helpful?
Mehmed: yes
you will probably need to move to the west of that lake
Sent at 2:51 PM on Monday
me: our land is to the west. if they are to the west of the lake, it might be faster to have them meet us where A4 met us... if you are familiar with that area
Sent at 2:53 PM on Monday
Mehmed: hmm
let me check ingame for a sec
Sent at 2:57 PM on Monday
me: okay. I will be afk back and forth for the next few minutes...
Mehmed: ok
Sent at 2:59 PM on Monday
Mehmed: ok
Sent at 3:03 PM on Monday
Mehmed: Krills unit is around 12 tiles west from the peak to the north from where we met you
the peak is just north of a corn tile
Sent at 3:04 PM on Monday
me: Okay. If he heads east about 3 or 4 tiles he will find our borders.
Mehmed: great thanks
Sent at 3:07 PM on Monday
me: I must be heading off to handle real life. but will talk to you again soon.
Mehmed: i don't know if ottomans sent you a message
about our tech cartel
Sent at 3:11 PM on Monday
Mehmed: i know you're in a hurry, but i'd like to share the plan
me: They did. I have posted it in our team thread but Shoot the Moon and I haven't had a chance to discuss
Mehmed: no need decide now
i'd just ask to keep it confidential
me: Of course 
Mehmed: Krill will land Oracle on T62
me: Holy cow
Mehmed: he'll take Alphabet
we then share around the cheap techs
me: We all knew Krill was good but defeating Lobo and then landing Oracle.. wow.
What techs are not accounted for?
Mehmed: if you're in
you need to start saving gold
me: So our role would be financiers?
Mehmed: no
that way you can research at 100% science when you start your tech
no sense in researching the cheap techs
me: Gotcha.
Mehmed: you're member #8
me: oh wow, I only knew of 5 other members.
Mehmed: Portugal/India/Egypt/Aztec/Ottomans/HRE/England and you
safety in numbers
we'll have a significant advantage over the other team
*teams
me: Wow. you've given me a lot to think about. I really have to go now but will share this with Shoot the Moon so that we can respond quickly
Mehmed: good
don't wait too long
and you need to meet the other members asap
He also mentioned that the north is the way to go. I have to run now but will be back later.
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I say jump at the chance for the tech cartel. Don't see any downside to it, and there are completely obvious downsides to not being in it. I'd say research wise we should research myst then (we need border pops), and then turn off research.
Also, I'd say we should offer to use the warrior currently in Lakewood to go meet Krill. If it is only 3 or 4 tiles, that's close enough we could easily move him back if a barb were to appear.
I am going to go check our email to get a fuller sense of the diplo situation, and will post again soon.
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Ok, to try to wrap my head around the diplo situation (god it is confusing with team names, leader names, civ names, and not even knowing where everyone is!). I'm just going to list the alliance members, any team name they are calling themselves, the individual members, the leader name, and any diplo relations we have had with them. If this stuff is obvious for you, sorry for taking up space, but I need to wrap my head around this.
So the alliance is:
Us
Portugal -- ??? Team Name -- Dantski + Mukha -- Willem -- Have yet to meet and don't know where they are.
India -- ??? Team Name -- darrelljs + regoarrarr + sunrise089 + sooooo --
Bismark -- Have yet to meet. Need to meet.
Egypt -- Team Krill -- Krill -- Ghandi -- Will meet shortly (he is a 3 or 4 tiles west of lakewood). He has eliminated a player and will be oracling alphabet.
Aztec -- National Pastime -- Ruff_hi -- Napoleon -- Have not met, don't know when we will meet or where he is.
Ottomans -- Team A4 -- Sockboy + ad hoc + WarriorKnight + Pegasus --
Zara -- First team met, to our north, have introduced us to most of the other teams.
HRE -- Team DIM -- meatbalz + dazedroyalty + Ilios -- Mehhemed -- Recently met, just had the chat with them that informed us of the alliance.
England -- ??? Team Name -- Cyneheard + haphazard1 + antisocialmunky --
Suryavaraman -- Have not met, but should soon.
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Who we have met that is not in the alliance:
Mali -- ??? Team Name -- Broker33 + dsplaisted + Swiss Pauli -- Huayna Capac -- Recently met, to our South-Southwest
My thoughts are we should affirm that we want to be part of the alliance. We also need to ask either DIM or the Ottomans how to meet Portugal, India, and the Aztec (assuming that Egypt and England meet us soon).
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I feel the same.. jump at the chance. This will be an 8 team alliance, so half of the remaining teams in the game. So essentially the game breaks into alliance vs. alliance. The next two steps are to figure out more about the map and determine who we should create a sub-alliance with.
Things we need to learn:
*Post-alphabet, who is researching what?
*Does this alliance include any type of mutual NAP/defensive pact/ or is it just a tech trading alliance?
*Are we making any effort at this point to even out beakers?
Remaining question I have before I send response:
*Do we send one joint note to DIM and A4 or individual notes to each team? For what it's worth, I feel a better vibe from DIM so far, even though we have exchanged more words with A4. Not that it means anything at this stage...
I will set research to mysticism and end turn. We will be at 0% research for 2 turns then 3 turns to research myst. Then back to 0% until T62 it sounds like. That's good, since the founding of city #4 will probably be tough on the economy. Or not, with cottages coming online. Not to boast, but we are still #2 GNP at 100%, and in top 10 in all other important categories. And that's with almost no culture.
Okay, time to end turn before we upset other teams...
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