Civ6 Succession Game 1: Commercial Free Programming

[ReallyEvilMuffin]

The chamberlain there is Neville chamberlain, the British PM that appeased Hitler and got ousted for Churchill when the uk went to war who has been solely remembered for this fact now (perhaps a little unfairly).


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[ReallyEvilMuffin]

But well done chaps!


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[Ranamar]

Wow, that ended quickly! (though I suppose I should have seen it coming...) From what I understand, there is no early finish bonus for the scoring, so winning in ways that don't involve conquering everything end up with really low scores.

I thought we needed 900 cumulative tourists per point of foreign tourist, but maybe we got that separately with each of the other civs? Our foreign tourism score went up a lot faster in those turns than I expected.

Thanks, Sullla, for this fascinating exercise in playing differently!

[Sullla]

Well, that did wrap up even faster than I expected! I was thinking it would take about 30 more turns from my last turnset, and instead we were able to reach the victory in just 17 turns. Another turn or two and we would have topped the 1000 tourism/turn mark. We had also just about finished the entire cultural tree, and would have been out of new civics to research by Turn 200. Not bad with our variant rules.

I loved the lategame lumberjacking down in the tundra. That was both effective and hilarious to see in practice. Those names were great! Interesting that Civ6 allows for much longer city names than Civ4. There was actually a point in Civ4's prerelease lifespan where you could type incredibly long names, and I still have a picture of that somewhere. Anyway, that was a fun addition to our empire in the closing turns.

One thing I'm not a huge fan of: selling cities to the AI for Great Works. The AI in this game feels a little too willing to accept deals involving cities, both taking them and giving them away. I'll keep this in mind for future events; we'll want to take this off the table if we do a competitive Cultural victory Epic. It was useful to see it here as a learning exercise as we're all still picking up how to play Civ6.

So here's what was going on with the tourism numbers at the end of the game:



I grabbed the last savegame file and played the last 7 turns to get to the victory screen myself. This picture is taken from that effort, and I must have done slightly different moves than Molach because I ended up with different numbers. Anyway, the base tourism number (the 984 at the top of the screen) gets fed through these various modifiers, and then that tourism amount gets sent to every other civ each turn. Note that the trade route bonus for Online Communities policy is ENORMOUS; the +75% bonus is worth something like 700 tourism/turn here, and the +25% bonus from having Open Borders with everyone is doing work too. The difference between the civs where we have a trade route and those where we don't is obvious.

After running through these modifiers, we were producing 7860 tourism/turn at the end of the game. We get a foreign tourist every time that we accumulate 900 tourism with another civ, which means we were getting almost 9 foreign tourists per turn. (It's actually a foreign tourist for every 150 * Number of Civs in Game, which is 150 * 6 = 900 for this game.) With that many foreign tourists coming in each turn, we accelerated across the finish line in a real hurry. A sub-Turn 200 Cultural victory is a very good result, and I think we should be proud of what we achieved here. Great work everyone!

I had a blast playing this game. Thanks to everyone for all of the contributions throughout this thread. I will probably look to start up another succession game after the holiday season - Civ6 feels like it should be fertile terrain for succession games.

[Brian Shanahan]

The chamberlain there is Neville chamberlain, the British PM that appeased Hitler and got ousted for Churchill when the uk went to war who has been solely remembered for this fact now (perhaps a little unfairly).


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No, he's the Neville Chamberlain that appeased Hitler all the way up to September 1939 and wanted to throw in the towel in 1940 (hence why Churchill got to be PM). The fact that he had a golden opportunity to peacefully topple Hitler at Munich in September 1938 (buy guaranteeing the independence and integrity of Czecho-Slovakia*) is why he's rightly considered one of the worst Prime Ministers ever.

*If Germany hadn't taken over the part of Bohemia which contained the majority of Czecho-Slovakia's industries, raw materials and defences the German economy would have gone bust some time in October 1938. One of the main reasons why Hitler's gambles got more extreme as the thirties went on was because his "Armaments uber alles" economic programme had the German economy acting like a 25 stone, 60 fags a day eighty year old running an ultra-marathon across the Himalaya.

Edit: I read the post as "opposed Hitler" first time round. Damn my fallible brain for assuming wrongly!

[Ichabod]

Congrats on the win, guys. I wasn't able to help, but I've read the game and how everything went smoothly until the end. Hope we get to see more SGs.