RBP3: Joao of Inca [SPOILERS]

[Nakor]

Logged in and accidently made our moves (just wanted to move the scouting warriors...

I send Ruff a mail asking if he wants a reload.

[Jowy]

Don't worry, mistakes happen. Does he get any advantage out of it? I'd imagine he atleast knows what we'd do but that can be changed if necessary.

[novice]

Is it possible to get a screenshot of the war theatre?

[Jowy]

Looks like Ottomans declared on us. Honestly I didn't even remember they're in the game, even left them out my report Oh well. They are "claiming" the first 8 hours, so it'd go them-ruff-us. I haven't logged in yet but I'd guess that's the only reason for the war, to force us to make our moves faster and have less time discussing our moves. However we aren't going to accept that turn split.

EDIT: Logged in, confirmed that there are no Ottoman units anywhere visible.

[Nakor]

I think we ARE going to agree on the time split, attacker claims time in this game. But i agree that they have to move in the same timeframe as Ruff.

I think they declared on both of us so they can get to our units in Aztec land...

Looked into the game and they killed one of our Axes near Ruff's second town. The attacker isn't visible anymore.

Athlete, will you finish the turn?

[athlete4life10]

Yup I'll take care of it.

Athlete

[Jowy]

They've got chariots then. Might have to forget about capturing the second city.

[Nakor]

Athlete, will you end the turn after this one has run out and you/we have played? Let's not dely things overly long...

Here's an update on Hercules:

Ok there are a lot of things going on in our alliance right now so I thought I would address them all in a single agenda so that nothing gets lost. Please forward to Inca, Babylon and Mali.

1) Tech Coordination. I sent out a google spreadsheet of the techs and who was researching what and when it was estimated to finish. Please forward the share invite to Inca, Babylon and Mali. I updated the spreadsheet a few minutes ago with all the new info I had.

We are missing researchers for two key techs (Archery and Horseback Riding) and info on the Inca and Babylon research plan. I believe it has already been recommended by others but can we get confirmation that the Inca are researching Archery and that Babylon are researching Horseback Riding and when those researches are estimated to be complete?

2) Intra-Alliance Contacts. It is important that all members of the Heracles alliance meet one another by Turn 71 if possible so that all the techs can be shared as soon as possible. As I understand it here are the outstanding contacts that still need to be coordinated. If there are more contacts that need to be facilitated then please let me know.

Sumeria - Babylon. Sumeria has a warrior Southwest of Byzantium territory headed Northwest looking to make contact with Babylon. Sumeria will send a screenshot of the warriors current location to Byzantium. If Babylon could send Byzantium a similar screen shot then Byzantium could send each of us a movement route that would expedite our meeting.

Sumeria - Inca. Sumeria has a warrior headed west along the southern edge of the Great Desert searching for the Inca. I have no idea if this is a good path or not. Can someone confirm if the Incan lands are near the Great Desert or if I should be headed farther south?

Sumeria - Mali. Sumeria has a warrior headed east through Mayan lands looking to make contact with the Mali. If the Mayans could send a screenshot of their nearest units location then Maya could coordinate a movement route that would expedite our meeting.

Rome - Byzantium. This meeting is being facilitated as part of Operation Tuesday 65. If Byzantium will send an updated screenshot of their chariot's location plus the number of healing turns required then I will send out an update for the plan.

Rome - Maya. This meeting is being facilitated as part of Operation Tuesday 65. If Maya will send an updated screenshot of their chariot's location plus the length of time that the chariot needs to heal then I will send out an update for the plan.

Rome - Babylon. Do either of you have units moving towards one another? If not my recommendation would be to meet near Incan lands as part of a plan to aid the Incan war effort.

Rome - Mali. Do either of you have units moving towards one another? If not my recommendation would be to meet near Incan lands as part of a plan to aid the Incan war effort.

3) Operation Tuesday 65. This plan is still a go but timelines and movement routes may need to be modified pending information from the Mayans and the Byzantium requested above.

4) Decision to Attack England vs Attack Aztec. There still needs to be a decision made on whether Babylon, Mali and Byzantium open a new front by attacking England or if Mali and Babylon join the Inca attack against the Aztec.

Traditional Sun Tzu-type strategy would favor a strong coordinated joint attack on the vulnerable Aztec instead of spreading our forces out amongst more opponents. With the Ottomans reinforcing Aztecs, it would also hurt our chances to recruit Hydra defectors if they are seen to be coming to the aid of their alliance members while we do not. Finally, a joint attack on the Aztecs might also be able to facilitate a meeting between Rome, Babylon and Mali if the Romans sent a warrior or a chariot over to the Incan lands. Rome is the source of Iron Working and as far as I know there is no pending meeting betwen those 3 civs which means Babylon and Mali may be late getting Iron Working.

5) Espionage Coordination. Rome has swapped his EP over to France. Based upon power graphs it is believed that Portugal only has 4-5 warriors at the moment similar to India. Aztec power is significantly higher and probably includes chariots/archers or 8-9 warriors.

Aztec. Sumeria has Research visibility. (Hopefully to be eliminated shortly so no more EP spending)
India. Sumeria has demographics visibility. (Hopefully to be eliminated shortly so no more EP spending)
Portugal. Rome has demographics capability. Sumeria EP focus.
France. Rome EP focus.
Ottomans. Incan EP focus?
England. Mali EP focus?
Egypt. No one has met yet. Mayan EP focus?
Carthage. No one has met yet. Byzantium EP focus?
Holy Roman Empire. No one has met yet. Babylon EP focus?

6) Other Items to be added to the Agenda?

Hi All,


(Please forward to Rome & Sumeria)


Re: Tech


Can we get the link to the google spreadsheet?


Babylon is definitely researching HBR, but we're wating for their ETA.


No offence intended to Inca, but we need fast Archery too much to risk it being slowed by war.


Re: Meetings


Mali-Rome: warrior heading east along Inca's border to meet Rome (see attached screeenshot).


Mali-Sumeria: chariot due in 2 will head west to meet Sumeria at Maya's borders.


Babylon: we'll try to get a chariot to gift to Babylon to speed their contacts.


Re: Espionage


Mali-Carthage: we've already met Carthage and are amassing EPs against them (and they're not investing any in us as yet). England and Mali are at 43 EPs each. We have also met HRE, but have not invested any EPs.


Re: Strike against England


Not possible without a NAPstab before T111. Much better to focus on India & Azteca, including homeland defence of Inca.


Best Wishes


Emperor Capac

[COLOR="Lime"]Hi All,

Forwarded to Rome as requested!
Please send this message back to the others of Heracles.

Let's adress a few points:

Tech:
We are 1t away from AH and need to go for 0% research due to war costs. We can park our research on someting we all might need.

Meeting:
To find us, please see the screenshot send by Capac. We have 2 exploring Quecha's, one east of Rome and one east of Kyan.

Espionage:
We'll change our EP's to the Ottomans!

War:
Help would be greatly appreciated. Aztec cities are defended by Archers and Warriors. Once this war is over, our azes might need something to do, so we might be able to move again soon. That will be sooner with aid in this war, and India is close.... We don't have any NAP's at the time.

So far our thoughts.

Good luck!
Nakor for JANK[/COLOR]

[athlete4life10]

Sorry guys. I played from work this morning (was in early and remoted to my home machine). Must have forgotten to end turn.

Thanks for the diplo work Nakor. It's much appreciated.

[athlete4life10]

K,

Talked to Twinkletoes ingame and he directed SE (moved) and E next turn so we can meet Byz. We can see their border but will meet them next turn.

I screwed up in game moving our war units. Ruff has a chariot (gifted from the ottomans) on the plains hill that is 3S of his capital I think. We had a quecha on the plains hill 1S of his capital so I could see it. This was reachable from his corn(?) at his 2nd city site and it was healthy (from the combat records I thought their chariot escaped unscathed) so I moved our axe SE onto the Oasis tile 1N of their 2nd city. There's an injured chariot there ready to pounce. I don't think we had visibility into the city but I should have known better.

So what to do now. We have 2 axes ready to move into Aztec territory and a quecha and an axe 1NW of the Oasis that still need to move.

I have also asked for a peace treaty from the Ottomans now that they have gifted their units away.

I would suggest this. The 2 axes not involved move back towards our borders. The Axe and Quecha move either SE and join our axe on the oasis (option 1) or move SW onto the tile N of the copper (option 2). I suspect atleast 2 workers are on the copper. The chariot (3.4/4) in his 2nd city would need to make a choice at that point.

I vote option #2.

However I believe we need to axe for peace at this point, atleast a cease fire. We will not be able to raze anything, have pillaged his tiles and without any spears are at an extreme disadvantage. My guess is Ruff will try to hunt down our units in his territory but won't advance on us. We should also notify Heracles of our situation as nobody is near enough to help.

We can reevaluate our warring needs afterwards, but we will really need to maximize our traights to catch up. At this point I'd prefer chops to go into workers/settler/infrastructure but if we need more units, we need more units.

What does everybody think? Given the time zones if either Jowy and/or Nakor can handle some of the diplomacy if we go this route so it gets started asap that would be great (and finish playing the turn). However I can do it tomorrow morning (for me) if need be.

Also if there is another option I can't see or something to add please do!

Athlete