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Mighty Rome have engaged scumbag Portugal in glorious battle.

Since we moved in the second half of both the turn of declaration and the turn before declaration I believe we are entitled to the second half of the turn split in accordance with the rules?
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Sandover Wrote:Mighty Rome have engaged scumbag Portugal in glorious battle.

Since we moved in the second half of both the turn of declaration and the turn before declaration I believe we are entitled to the second half of the turn split in accordance with the rules?

Firstly, we would like to make a request to all teams that they cease (ab)using this thread as a Public Player thread. Any parties declaring war should email necessary turn split details to any parties that need to know and to only use this thread if issues develop.

You are indeed entitled to the second half of the turn. As we have yet to play this turn however do you mind not moving any further units to allow us to play this turn?
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Hm, since you haven't moved yet I suppose it would be best if we play the first half instead? Is that ok with you?
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Sandover Wrote:Hm, since you haven't moved yet I suppose it would be best if we play the first half instead? Is that ok with you?

We would prefer the first half of the turn.

We have ourselves a situation.

sunrise Wrote:Poll 15: Dividing Wartime Turn Splits -
*Attacker's choice (attacker chooses when to declare, defender get opposite half of the turn)

This seems to imply that the attacker gets whatever half of the turn they declared in. But if you are taking the second half of the turn there is nothing in the rules that governs whether we now have to forfeit our moves for this turn. If you did allow us to move now this turn with us in the first half next turn we would then be double moving you at the start of next turn, as you have told me that you have already finished moving this turn.

It seems like we have to take the second half of the turn to resolve this, even though the rules seem to say we get the first half. Which is the half we would much rather have as well.

I think we need some rule's clarification.
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After discussion we can accept the second half, there are no fairer alternatives.

Is this OK with everybody else? It does appear to go against that turn split rule.
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Well, the rule was established to revolve situations when both parties disagree on who moves when. Since Rome agrees to move first and Portugal agrees to move second, I don't see why you would need our approval.

<End turn> lol
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Ilios Wrote:Well, the rule was established to revolve situations when both parties disagree on who moves when. Since Rome agrees to move first and Portugal agrees to move second, I don't see why you would need our approval.

<End turn> lol

Correct.

And as to whether the defender forfeits their first-turn-of-the-war moves when the attacker claims the second half of the turn but moves before the defender, I think the answer is clearly no. The attacker is free to use civstats to determine whether the defender has ended their turn. If they choose to DOW before that time it is at their own peril.
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But wait, if you mean at their own peril do you mean that you think we were justified in getting the first half as the rule states and hence being able to double move them at the start of the next turn?
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Give it a break Mukha. Don't you have enough advantages on us already without trying to justify double-moving us?rolleye
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