RBP3 [SPOILERS] - Friendly Kittens (Ragnar of Maya)

[Maniac Marshall]

If you've come here looking for our T-100 report... sorry to disappoint. I have taken the relevant screenshots, 13 in number, but... it's late and I'm tired, so come back tomorrow and you should find what you're looking for =)

[RefSteel]

Updated microplan (?!?!) coming shortly. I've changed a couple of things, mainly to speed growth. Mach ETA will not be adversely affected.

More later....

[Maniac Marshall]

I'm interested to see it.

I, too, have the makings of a microplan... Involves building 2 workers over 4 turns using a single whip at PR, and another out of the cap that should help cure our imminent worker deficiency.

BTW, yes, I noticed AFTER the fact that that hill I want to road south of Temminck is not a plains hill but a desert one and I have 2 workers standing on it.

Depending on when the turn rolls, I might need someone to play a turn tomorrow night of friday durring the day... There would be detailed instructions...

[RefSteel]

[EDIT: Updated to reflect current situation, etc. May be further updated tomorrow, especially if we want more workers sooner.]

Here's the limited outline/sketch of what I came up with, as far as I've spun it out, subject to change. The trouble with a microplan at this stage of the game is that everything interacts with everything else, and everything overlaps with critical target turns that never establish a clean break. At least, when you jerry-rig things together the way I do, it looks that way. I'm happy to leave things in Maniac's capable hands, and should probably detail the reasons for everything but in the interest of posting something.....

Turn 100: Fierias switches to a Holkan (Archer on hold).
Pride Rock resumes Holkan (Settler on hold) and works cow+fpfarm+horse+grassfarm+cottage+grassmine+grassmine.

Turn 101: Temminck grows to size 7.
Desert-hill workers road.
FP workers by FS farm; plains worker by FS moves 1NE-1SE to their floodplain and farms; farm complete.
PR Worker farms.
Kilrah workers farm.
Pride Rock starts Archer (Holkan and Settler on hold).
Temminck works gold+(unimproved)floodplain+rice+fpvillage+fpvillage+fphamlet+fpfarm(borrowed from FS).
Feng Shui works FPfarm+(new)FPfarm.

Turn 102: Feng Shui and Kilrah grow to size 3.
An FP worker at FS moves 1N-1NE to the spices.
Another FP worker there moves 1SE to a plains forest.
The third FP worker there roads.
One of the desert hill workers completes his road. The other moves 1NE to a river plain, farms, and CANCELS orders.
The worker in the jungle near PR chops.
Kilrah grassfarm complete; the other worker on the tile moves to the wine, wineries, and CANCELS orders.
Fierias resumes Archer (Holkan on hold). You are correct that it will not complete this turn. This is intentional!
Temminck switches to copper from (unimproved) floodplain.
Feng Shui works fpfarm+fpfarm+dyes.
Kilrah works pig+mine+(new)grassfarm

Turn 103: Archer complete at Pride Rock. Temminck grows to size 8. Temminck borders pop to 3rd ring. Kilrah borders pop to 2nd ring.
Worker near PR finishes a farm.
Worker in Yellow Dot's forest roads.
Worker on spices chops.
Worker on wines moves 1NE to the rice and farms.
Worker on Kilrah's farm moves 1NE-1N to the wine, wineries, and CANCELS orders.
Worker on the desert hill moves 1NE to a river plain by FS, farms, and CANCELS orders.
Worker already on that river plain moves 1NE-1SE to a farmed floodplain and roads; road complete.
Pride Rock resumes Settler (Holkan on hold) and WHIPS it for 2 pop, working cow+horse+fpfarm+rivergrassmine+plainsmine.
Temminck hires 2 scientists and works gold+copper+rice+fpvillage+fpvillage+fphamlet.
Feng Shui works fpfarm+fpfarm+fpfarm(taken back from Temminck).
Kilrah works pig+farm+(unimproved)rice.

Turn 104: Archer complete at Fierias. Settler complete at Pride Rock. Pride Rock grows back to size 6. Feng Shui grows to size 4.
Settler moves 2E-2SE to the Dyes.
Worker near PR moves 1S to a jungle.
Worker on the wine moves 1NE to rice and farms.
Worker on Yellow Dot's forest completes a road.
Worker on a river plain near FS WAITS FOR THE PRECEDING ROAD TO COMPLETE, then moves 1NE-2SE-1S to another forest adjacent to Yellow Dot.
Workers on FS's fp farm move 1NW-1NE and road; road complete.
Fierias starts a Worker (Holkan on hold).
Pride Rock starts a Worker (Holkan on hold) working cow+horse+fpfarm+mine+mine+mine.
Feng Shui works fpfarm+fpfarm+fpfarm+dyes.
Kilrah WHIPS its missionary, and works pigs+(unimproved)rice.

Turn 105: Worker complete at Pride Rock. Missionary complete at Kilrah. Kilrah grows back to size 3.
Settler moves to site of Yellow Dot.
Missionary moves 2SW-1S to a grass hill.
One of the workers on grassland by FS move 1NW to a river plains tile and roads.
The other worker from the same tile moves 1SW-2SE to a plains forest near Yellow Dot, chops, and CANCELS orders.
Workers in forests near Yellow Dot chop and CANCEL orders.
Worker on an FS Floodplain moves 1SE to a Yellow Dot forest, chops, and CANCELS orders.
Worker in jungle chops.
Worker on Spice chops; chop complete.
New worker moves 2E-2SE to the dyes.
Fierias resumes Holkan (Worker on hold) and switches from a mine to the plains farm(!)
Pride Rock starts a Worker (Holkan on hold).
Feng Shui works farm+farm+farm+gems.
Kilrah starts Forge and works pig+rice+mine
CONVERT TO HINDUISM!

Turn 106: Anarchy ends.
Settler founds Yellow Dot.
Worker on the dyes moves 2E to a floodplain, irrigates, and CANCELS orders.
Worker on the spice plantations.
Workers on Yellow Dot's northern forest WAIT UNTIL THE CITY IS FOUNDED, then move 2SE to the corn and farm.
Worker on Yellow Dot's southern forest chops and CANCELS orders.
Worker on a Fierias-owned river plains tile completes a road.
Missionary WAITS UNTIL THE PRECEDING ROAD IS COMPLETE, then moves 1SW-1SE-1SW to Feng Shui.
Workers on the rice move 1SW to the wines and build a winery.
Worker near PR moves 1SE-2E to a jungle.
Yellow Dot builds a granary and works the corn.

The Missionary is intended to spread Hindu in the new city on T107, followed immediately (on the same turn) by both chops for the granary (yielding I-think-it's 14 hammers of overflow in addition to the gran itself). Next build might well be a monastery there. Note that this plan gets the settler out later than slow-building it would have done, but gets a worker out immediately on top of it, is quick to recover the whipped pop, and gets the new city up to speed (roaded to, with granary + culture + useful tile) rapidly without neglecting the other cities. Note also Temminck insistently working scientists. That's what I've got for now.

Maniac, can you post that T100 summary/overview, or shall I have a go at it?

Also, if you like your microplan better, please post it and I'll work from there.

And finally, believe it or not, I'm now basically caught up on what's going on in-game, to the (extremely limited) extent of our civ's knowledge. This is going to be fun and interesting. (No sarcasm intended.)

[Maniac Marshall]

Well, T100 rolled while I was at work, so you've set us down either your plan or mine depending on if you changed all the builds and tile assignments or not. I guess I'll see in about an hour when I get home. If you didn't change builds and tile assignemnts, I'll see what I can do to integrate your ideas with mine when I get time to look at it.

I'll be home in about an hour and will post the T100 report then.

EDIT: Oh, and as for being caught up... well, we've really done very little "hard" diplo in some time. We've been riding coattails of our earlier 15 hour, don't go pee cause you might miss an important conversation martahon days.

I really SHOULD try to talk to at least India, Portugal, Byz and Kyan soon however, just to maintain things. I shoot the breeze (not to be confused with Shoot the Moon) with England and Carthage once in a while and weigh in on PAT stuff via email, but maybe you could chat with Krill one of these afternoons as well.

[Maniac Marshall]

OK, so I see you changed the build assignments for Fierias and Pride Rock, but not for Temminck. I guess we're pretty well locked into your plan now then as what I was doing in those cities is no longer possible.

[Maniac Marshall]

I'm not sure when I'll get the T100 report done now, I'm going to have to go through your plan and try to figure out whats going on. I know it doesn't look like we're going to get 3 workers in the next 6 turns doing what we're doing now, and that will drastically affect what I had planed, so I'll get the sandbox out and try to figure out whats going on now.

[Maniac Marshall]

You know what? I no longer have any idea what we're doing with PR or Fierias and I dono if by the time I do, I'll feel like posting these. I was going to go into depth on what we were going to do at each city over the next several turns, but I'll just post the pictures instead. Sorry.

[Maniac Marshall]

I think I've kind of figured out what you're doing with that micro plan. I should have an alternative plan up in a couple hrs.

Never mind, I'm still confused X_X

[RefSteel]

I'm very, very sorry. I was not thinking clearly, and should not have changed anything. [EDIT: This is to say, since I think I'm still not being clear: Changing things was intrinsically a mistake, independent of whether the changes represent an improvement or detraction to our civ's position; it was the idea of going in and making changes that was the problem. I did so because you seemed to my addled brain to be telling me to do so [i.e. decide on our course] in chat last night, at the end; this is not an excuse, it's an insight into the fuddled state of my sleepless brain.]

Seriously. I tried too hard and stayed up too late trying to get caught up and do a microplan thinking that we didn't have anything already, and it was a case of stupidity (mine) compounded by stupidity (mine). I'll try to undo the damage as best I can. If you can describe what you had planned, I'll try to recover things, though it might be best not to let me mess with things any further. (Also, I wanted to post this before I saw your posts, but I was at work and unable to do so. Bleahhhh.)

Note this is not me bemoaning stuff; just strict apologies for the incredibly dumb move of messing with things. I normally err on the side of leaving things alone, and I should have done so all the more under the circumstances.

Whatever I did in-game may not be a set-back per se, but doing it, whether the outcome is positive or negative, was very stupid. I'm sorry.