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Edited my side of the sheet.

I actually had to go look at the pb40 map to remember it.
I liked that map a lot.  I remember thinking that the south islands were better than the north ones, but I don't remember why.  Maybe just because I couldn't have them.
I especially liked the border conflict for horses, even though I was on the wrong side of that for most of the game.


Edit: I see I said much the same at the end of 40.

(February 19th, 2019, 11:05)Elkad Wrote: I liked the map as well.  The horse distribution/placement I was especially fond of, and the overpowered islands were nice, even if most of us never used them.
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Ive edited mine as well..
"Superdeath seems to have acquired a rep for aggression somehow. [Image: noidea.gif] In this game that's going to help us because he's going to go to the negotiating table with twitchy eyes and slightly too wide a grin and terrify the neighbors into favorable border agreements, one-sided tech deals and staggered NAPs."
-Old Harry. PB48.
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(March 30th, 2020, 00:50)Miguelito Wrote: Speaking of mapmaker, Mardoc has declined,,so who knows of someone else?

I ... think I may have a map that will meet the criteria, that I think I can get into shape by the time you guys get your settings sorted out. I'm not even completely sure of how many players are actually involved right now though: Ruff hasn't posted to the thread since the settings discussion started, it looks like, and giraflorens (Welcome!) expressed interest but (it appears) might end up dedlurking or focusing on the base BtS game instead. Nevertheless, here are some notes on the map I have right now:

- All players start on the same landmass

- The map includes smaller landmasses of various sizes as well.

- There are starting spots for 8 players; I can probably edit the map to get this down to 7 or up to 9 if necessary; this would probably take a few more days than otherwise, but might still beat the settings discussion if we get a quick roll call now.

- Number of cities presumably depends on how densely people build, but to judge by GJ's Mapcad + my guesstimates, there will probably be about ~~60 total cities on the map, including all land masses, if the game goes long enough to settle them all. This number will probably go up or down by 5-6ish if I modify the map to add or subtract a player.

- No mapscript was used; when you find something about the map you hate (and if you play on it, there almost certainly will be something) you can safely blame me!

- I tried to make the map look natural and interesting (to me) - not freakish or gimmicky. It's designed with East-West cyllindrical wrap.

- When I made this map, I was trying to balance it pretty assymetrically: Different players on this map will have different map-based advantages and disadvantages from one another, so each player who loses will have a valid grievance against me. In theory, if the decisions of different neighbors aren't taken into account, the different advantages and disadvantages of different starts should hopefully more or less even out and leave everyone a chance to win from turn 0 though. Hopefully!

- The map is currently balanced on the assumption that Ivory is just a luxury resource, since the latest RtR makes Wellies available with Iron, with or without Ivory. This is reasonably easy to chang if I'm somehow mistaken about this rule.

I'm going to try to keep improving the balance (still assymetrically) while you get the settings worked out - unless you prefer a different mapmaker, a not-from-scratch map, or anything else that would invalidate this attempt! The main point is: At least if you can agree on settings, some map on which to play does exist!
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WOOT!
"Superdeath seems to have acquired a rep for aggression somehow. [Image: noidea.gif] In this game that's going to help us because he's going to go to the negotiating table with twitchy eyes and slightly too wide a grin and terrify the neighbors into favorable border agreements, one-sided tech deals and staggered NAPs."
-Old Harry. PB48.
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(March 31st, 2020, 03:19)RefSteel Wrote: Ruff hasn't posted to the thread since the settings discussion started, it looks like,

I'm here, waiting for game to start. Haven't posted about settings as I don't care.
I have finally decided to put down some cash and register a website. It is www.ruffhi.com. Now I remain free to move the hosting options without having to change the name of the site.

(October 22nd, 2014, 10:52)Caledorn Wrote: And ruff is officially banned from playing in my games as a reward for ruining my big surprise by posting silly and correct theories in the PB18 tech thread.
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(March 31st, 2020, 03:19)RefSteel Wrote:
(March 30th, 2020, 00:50)Miguelito Wrote: Speaking of mapmaker, Mardoc has declined,,so who knows of someone else?

I ... think I may have a map that will meet the criteria, that I think I can get into shape by the time you guys get your settings sorted out.  I'm not even completely sure of how many players are actually involved right now though:  Ruff hasn't posted to the thread since the settings discussion started, it looks like, and giraflorens (Welcome!) expressed interest but (it appears) might end up dedlurking or focusing on the base BtS game instead.  Nevertheless, here are some notes on the map I have right now:

- All players start on the same landmass

- The map includes smaller landmasses of various sizes as well.

- There are starting spots for 8 players; I can probably edit the map to get this down to 7 or up to 9 if necessary; this would probably take a few more days than otherwise, but might still beat the settings discussion if we get a quick roll call now.

- Number of cities presumably depends on how densely people build, but to judge by GJ's Mapcad + my guesstimates, there will probably be about ~~60 total cities on the map, including all land masses, if the game goes long enough to settle them all.  This number will probably go up or down by 5-6ish if I modify the map to add or subtract a player.

- No mapscript was used; when you find something about the map you hate (and if you play on it, there almost certainly will be something) you can safely blame me!

- I tried to make the map look natural and interesting (to me) - not freakish or gimmicky.  It's designed with East-West cyllindrical wrap.

- When I made this map, I was trying to balance it pretty assymetrically:  Different players on this map will have different map-based advantages and disadvantages from one another, so each player who loses will have a valid grievance against me.  In theory, if the decisions of different neighbors aren't taken into account, the different advantages and disadvantages of different starts should hopefully more or less even out and leave everyone a chance to win from turn 0 though.  Hopefully!

- The map is currently balanced on the assumption that Ivory is just a luxury resource, since the latest RtR makes Wellies available with Iron, with or without Ivory.  This is reasonably easy to chang if I'm somehow mistaken about this rule.

I'm going to try to keep improving the balance (still assymetrically) while you get the settings worked out - unless you prefer a different mapmaker, a not-from-scratch map, or anything else that would invalidate this attempt!  The main point is:  At least if you can agree on settings, some map on which to play does exist!

Sounds absolutely awesome to me, thanks!

Edit : pm'd fintourist and giraflorens to sign up now of they're still interested
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thumbsup on the map. Also giraflorens PM'ed me a couple days ago and will be dedlurking me.
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Updated the sheet. I changed some stuff to speed up consensus. Tx Miguelito for the reminder smile
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Thank you for reminding! Does the map work for one additional player? As I've been passive I don't mind being left out if it creates any hassle. 

I was planning this to be a more casual exercise, but I've asked OH if he can cover the turns I would otherwise be missing. I don't want to generate a lot of pausing either.. So is it ok if I confirm or opt out in a few hours?

EDIT: Reading more carefully, I see that I would be the 9th player meaning that the map would require some editing. So please RefSteel say whether that is suboptimal for bigger picture. As you can see I'm itching for a new game, but also a bit hesitant reg the commitment..
Finished:
PBEM 45G, PB 13, PB 18, PB 38 & PB 49

Top 3 favorite turns: 
#1, #2, #3
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