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Raskolnikov · April 18th, 2020, 08:09

North dotmapping:

[Image: HG2talb.jpg]

South:

I think most sites are quite clear. Some deserve more thinking, or adaptation depending of other people settling (7, 10). Suggestions for third settler are there to brainstorm... I truly think settling both ivory and pig in first ring is the superior. But other sites have other stuff going for them (hill/2h city center and shared corn which can be improved the turn after settling by 2 workers).
10 should be near the riverside jungle rice, but we might want to grab the gold if Mr.Cairo didn't (though I hope he will do and peacefully trade it to me - he agreed to that, posting diplo in a few)
7: I quite like the western site on a hill (the other site has the offenders on hill!) with green cow in first ring. But that will be the final casus belli with TBW I think. I think I will ran sims about CR2 swords vs cities at 40% culture or schock axes in the field against what I can field. Settling this city might not be the brightest idea, that is if there is a chance TBW doesn't dow. noidea

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Some other (bad) news... both TBW and MrCairo settled their second city last turn, ie t31.
Worse, Mr.Cairo went over the 43 EP threshold on me... I wonder if he has already thrown away all the early and steady diplo and elected me as the first target... or he has been sloppy ( pat

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Annoying nevertheless

Charriu · April 18th, 2020, 09:59

Just wanted to say that the mod contains a dotmapping tool. Just press ALT+X.

Raskolnikov

(April 18th, 2020, 09:59)Charriu Wrote: Just wanted to say that the mod contains a dotmapping tool. Just press ALT+X.

Thanks for the notice Charriu, will try it out. thumbsup

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Diplo:

with Mr.Cairo:

Mr. Cairo Wrote:Raskolnikov

Quote:Hi,

Thanks for the map! I agree, it will be a lot easier to discuss once we've got the map visibility in game. But that could still be in a while. I can do the next set of composites if you like.
The red line seems reasonable... but in that case may I suggest we arrange a future gold against ivory trade in the future? iirc you have several gold tiles in your capital surroundings (counting the one by the rice) and I would have several ivory tiles. That would make our people happier...

Tell me what you think!

Cheers,
Ras

Gold for Ivory sounds like a good plan to me.

Mr. Cairo

Sounds good, though I hope Mr.Cairo putting EPs on me again isn't a sign of him reversing alliances. Maybe he has no choice (we can't waste our EPs, can we?)

With TBW:

TBW Wrote:A three way trade is fine with me, thanks for the heads up. I'll keep my espionage at 43 on you when it gets there, unless I haven't met anyone new to put the points in, then I' guess I'll split my points evenly between you and Gavagai until I have someone new to spend the points on.

Regards,
TBW

With Gavagai/Irismono:

Raskolnikov Wrote:I have TBW's map from some turn ago. I notified him that I would send it to you in exchange for your screenshot. Are you OK with the trade?

Cheers,
Ras

OOC: I hope you are fine now

I got no reply... and it's been 3 days now. I am waiting a bit more but I will take this as a firm "no" if I get no reply by tonight.

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otherwise nothing exciting the last 2 turns... just going on with the reported micro. I will post a screen next turn (t33) as the settler for stone city comes out.

TBH, I am more and more afraid this city will doom my diplo. Though there might not be any possiblity for TBW and I to be friends anyway. I am hoping Superdeath goes south so we can arrange something together with Gavagai. But if TBW goes for a rush on me, I will need to adapt... I have the option to Oracle HBR, but I am going construction fast anyway, so hopefully I can have cats/HAs then phants up in time.

Raskolnikov

(April 19th, 2020, 09:18)Raskolnikov Wrote: diplo.

I will update when I have access to my other comp but it seems I will be attacked by both Mr.Cairo and TBW.

So much for putting effort in diplo rolf

*prepares pillaging/shocking parties*

Raskolnikov · April 21st, 2020, 10:04

Last turn situation:

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We are now on stone (settler & scout), the workers are roading east of copper because there is nothing else to do while waiting for settling stone city (I want to be able to finish the road toward it next turn so cottage turns weren't possible)

We switched in slavery this turn as planned.

EPs:

That's what annoyed me last turn, when I realized despite previous agreements, both TBW and Mr.Cairo were putting full EPs on me... since 5 turns! (check out last EPs pic on the first post of page 15...) rant

I micromanaged to regain visibilty.

I sent messages to both of them and they changed their espionnage spending, but I am not sure it means we are friends still:

So Mr.Cairo is either sloppy (can be, it happens to me very often) or he is moking me... Commissar

Here is what I sent to TBW:

Rereading it, this is not the best I could have come up with, it feels too much agressive (that's on me, sending PMs very late and tired)
oh well

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Finally, with Gavagai/Irismono:

Good thing I persevered since I was ready to send it for free to make Gavagai vs TBW happen. lol

I'll send them a screen in the evening.

I might try another exchange with TBW first, since he changed his EPs spending, he might be opened to it. mischief

Nevertheless I need to keep him up to date regarding trading with Gavagai, just in case there is still a chance we can be buddies.

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Current demos:

Not stellar, but I am growing size 5 to start 2 worker/settler pairs. Not planning on whipping, but second worker will be chopped.
I haven't simmed this for a while, I might try to find improvements adding a whip into the mix (gut feeling says I need the commerce to have a shot at the Oracle, and without granary/lighthouse, I won't gain much but one unhappy citizen).

Raskolnikov · April 21st, 2020, 10:16

More diplo with TBW:

Raskolnikov

Last two turns:

Settled "Dawn of War" (great vintage game), the stone city.

[Image: wifFAPb.jpg]

Finished roading toward it the same turn, before starting SH chops.

Note our scout revealed TBW capital's location and his second city. I will take the time to show them on the old screen I got from TBW. (l8r though lol

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He will now go back to the tile 2 SW of The Evidence so he can protect the worker roading toward city 3 (next capital's build).

Microed EPs to regain graphs on our neighbours, here is their evolution inbetween turns:

Both Mr.Cairo and TBW are keeping their words.

I had some more exchanges with TBW. Reassuring. I hope this will hold when he sees our new city lol

Gonna do the screen trade with Gavagai/Irismono tonight.

Raskolnikov · April 23rd, 2020, 11:44

Second TBW's city is located in the riverside plain between the deer and the cow tile in the screen below:

IMO settling the silver will be seen as a casus belli by TBW, even more so if we do it by going for the green hill next to the cow...

Might just do that down the road lol

(we have time to think at it further)

Hollybombay · April 23rd, 2020, 11:46

4.20% of the turns completed!

Raskolnikov · April 23rd, 2020, 11:51

(April 23rd, 2020, 11:46)Hollybombay Wrote: 4.20% of the turns completed!

That's an old pic from TBW.

I changed my option this morning. Like I said in the other thread, you should see only turns from now on.

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