Are you happy with RtR?

[Borsche]

The quests one makes sense. Anything that gives the player agency and choice... assuming your implementation means that the player can effectively choose what quest they want to activate and pursue.

[Charriu]

That is the goal

[Old Harry]

Yeah, that sounds great. While you're working on it would there be any chance the interface could tell us what the rewards will be so we don't have to go search Civfanatics?

[Charriu]

I will try that. But developing the actual quest advisor will be a longer project. I made just add the event/quest split with no random quests first, as that is easier to do.

[Old Harry]

It looks like survey responses have dried up - you can see what everyone wrote here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...1654610987

I've rated all the none-standard responses in line with the others, so whatever you answered the spirit of your response is accounted for. Then I scored each answer, for everyone and for RtR players, with worst giving -2, Bad = -1, No opinion = 0 Fine = 1, Great = 2. The outcome column gives a result where the score is + or - 7 for the RtR players. The upshot looks like this:



So if anyone feels strongly and wants to argue for the debatable items let's hear you:

1. Towns act as forts for boats and air units [no lean either way, so hopefully someone will argue for this one]

2. 5 turn peace treaties/resource trades [lean revert to 10t treaties]

3. Barracks give culture [lean keep]

4. Temples on Meditation instead of Priesthood [lean move back to Priesthood]

5. Traits have bloated since v2.5 (ish) (reverting would mean FIN loses +35% production of Library, Market; CRE goes from +35% to +100% production of Library, Observatory; CHA loses +100% production of Colosseum, +35% production of Library; IMP goes from +50 to +60% settlers, loses -10% city maintenance; IMP loses +35% production of Bank, University, -15% civic maintenance but gets it's bonus back for 'mids) [lean keep pb49 traits]

6. Privateers need Optics & Paper not Astronomy & Chemistry [lean keep]

[Borsche]

Is it impossible to have 5 and 10 turn treaties? Or even variable turn treaties?

[Borsche]

As far as the traits are concerned, the biggest bloat to me is definitely the ticky tacky civic/city maint bonuses that AGG/IMP/IND get. There has to be something a little more interesting than any of that.

[GeneralKilCavalry]

Barracks giving culture is a nerf to creative and a buff to agg. Trivializes early game culture, might as well have granaries give culture... Just get rid of it.

Towns should not be giving defensive bonuses. IDK about the pillaging, or naval movement, but it can provide cover to advancing enemy troops. It's kind of dumb.

[Old Harry]

As far as the traits are concerned, the biggest bloat to me is definitely the ticky tacky civic/city maint bonuses that AGG/IMP/IND get. There has to be something a little more interesting than any of that.

Rather than trying out something new at this point would just removing the bonuses do the job?

Barracks giving culture is a nerf to creative and a buff to agg. Trivializes early game culture, might as well have granaries give culture... Just get rid of it.

Towns should not be giving defensive bonuses. IDK about the pillaging, or naval movement, but it can provide cover to advancing enemy troops. It's kind of dumb.

Yeah, wasn't buffing agg and nerfing cre part of the reason for that change? Are those traits in a place where they can take the nerf/buff that removing the culture would be?

IIRC towns and forts don't give defence bonuses in enemy culture.

Edit: the only reason for having towns act as forts was to let you hook resources under the indestructible monstrosities. They'll go back to being pillageable now so IMO no need for this change and all the unintended consequences (50 airships stationed around one city and destroyers sailing through the land like it isn't there).

[superdeath]

I enjoy barracks giving 1culture. Gives more variety for early culture than having to tech mysticism for monuments, or tech writing and well... libraries arent cheap.

I dont really see it as much of a nerf to CRE. CRE gives border pops in 5t without anymore investment than just settling the city. No whips, chops, ect.


IND imo, needs the buff that something like Civic/city maint bonus could give. Plus it kinda fits the theme. Industrious should have the better maintenance due to their better made buildings/ect.