Gaspar & Noble make their triumphant? return; mostly just get asked about "The List"

[Charriu]

I really hoped it was from a library somewhere, but nonetheless I am impressed

[DaveV]

For the record, I made the GLH gif myself and I would like someone to be impressed by my artistic skills.

What artistic skills? More like google skills finding a movie-to-gif converter, and reading skills in learning how to use it?

[Commodore]

For the record, I made the GLH gif myself and I would like someone to be impressed by my artistic skills.

What artistic skills? More like google skills finding a movie-to-gif converter, and reading skills in learning how to use it?

Hey, you're right, those are instead "coding skills".

[Gaspar]

For the record, I made the GLH gif myself and I would like someone to be impressed by my artistic skills.

What artistic skills? More like google skills finding a movie-to-gif converter, and reading skills in learning how to use it?

[mackoti]

Congrats on the half of GLH. Plan to use the merchant for some bulb? Now get tOA there and will have a monster trade route city....

[Gaspar]

Congrats on the half of GLH. Plan to use the merchant for some bulb? Now get tOA there and will have a monster trade route city....

Thanks!

Most likely the first GP will go for a GA, but bulbing Guilds isn't out of the question.

If we do built ToA, most likely it will go in Oriath, the Moai city.

[Miguelito]

How do you bulb guilds? The list that I'm using has CoL, CS, and Paper above? (https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/g...st-4135261)

[Gaspar]

How do you bulb guilds? The list that I'm using has CoL, CS, and Paper above? (https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/g...st-4135261)

I hadn't really worked it out in my head, other than it is on the list. Obviously if we're churning through that much extraneous tech, its easier to just tech guilds hardway. Anyway, the overwhelming likelihood is that the GM is either used for the GA, or doesn't in fact pop because we push something else out sooner. I would bet a lot of money that GLH is not our last wonder of the game.

[Gaspar]

t74 chat

NobleHelium: - 
lol
literally decided to check if the turn was in and it's in
lewwyn built oracle
power went up 19k
lewwyn might be getting currency with oracle
k this is a question we'll need to ponder in a few minutes
<picture>
this is from the sim
do you whip the forge here immediately or do you grow to 5 first
Gaspar:
well
i think i'd grow to 5
NobleHelium: - 
this is a relevant question because if we want to whip at 4 then we need to turn tech on this turn and hopefully get mc in 4
maintenance will go up 9 gold after we settle lw on t77
so it's not clear to me whether we'll be able to finish mc on the last turn at 80-90% or not
plus there's a chance lewwyn might oracle mc instead of currency so he might give us ktb if we hold for one more turn
so if we aren't whipping we can just wait one more turn before turning tech on
Gaspar:
if he oracles MC
id be surprised
did bob just eat a turn of revolt for OR
seems dubious
NobleHelium: - 
yes
and yes
Gaspar:
lew has a worker at roadhog
NobleHelium: - 
yes
stone is not improved yet
Gaspar:
he must not be building mids if hes doing the sheep first
NobleHelium: - 
well i don't know
but stone must not be super urgent
Gaspar:
i mean we're not building mids unless its sitting there super late
but id rather someone other than lew builds them
also, do we think rusten is sitting on a nice pile of fail gold right now?
NobleHelium: - 
maybe, but i'm ready to label him fail gold
Gaspar:
whys that?
NobleHelium: - 
well he had one job
AND HE FAILED
Gaspar:
hahaha
i find it interesting lew is finding hammers for all these wonders
stonehenge
he landed oracle
we'll just have to make sure we push hard for everything we go for
alright so
NobleHelium: - 
yeah so
you can see serdoa's units are slightly less threatening this turn
Gaspar:
send the scout back to unfog TRs?
NobleHelium: - 
well here's the thing
Gaspar:
they are significantly less threatening
NobleHelium: - 
i think we should go to the end of the peninsula
because if we get a coastal path to bob we have trade routes
Gaspar:
ok
NobleHelium: - 
so scout SW?
Gaspar:
yeah
NobleHelium: - 
also i suppose this leaves us open
to serdoa avenging his scout
but that seems unlikely
i guess he could have done it inside bob's borders anyway
so never mind
Gaspar:
scout being alive is gravy at this point
hes done his job
NobleHelium: - 
galley NW?
Gaspar:
yeah
NobleHelium: - 
yep
Gaspar:
fuck pindicator
NobleHelium: - 
beachhead definitively sucks
make sure to post a pic of the marble island vs lew's stone island
when we see everything
Gaspar:
yeah
NobleHelium: - 
ok galley west again
so yeah
pindicator is literally forcing us to choose
between orphaning the crab and the fish up there
Gaspar:
i reiterate
fuck pindicator
warrior 1E
NobleHelium: - 
yes
Gaspar:
HB axe stays
NobleHelium: - 
sure
Gaspar:
malachai and sirus cottage 1S?
NobleHelium: - 
not exactly
hold a sec
Gaspar:
i feel like malachai and sirus wouldnt get along
NobleHelium: - 
yeah that's why they're getting broken up
Gaspar:
because malachai is all "why are you so in love with death"
and sirus is all "DIE"
NobleHelium: - 
well tbf
malachai might make sirus feel something
Gaspar:
lol
i cant believe the big bad
is a fucking emo kid
NobleHelium: - 
that is definitely one of the all time dumbest lines
Gaspar:
i hate sirus
its like
you fight shaper
and then you fight sirus
and you're like how are these two fights in the same game
elder had it right, he just doesn't talk and is all here have some decay
supposedly the next league is an endgame revamp
hopefully they replace sirus
NobleHelium: - 
well the elder is not human so he probably doesn't speak english :P
yeah i saw that part
Gaspar:
perfect
NobleHelium: - 
i'm checking some micro give me another minute
Gaspar:
its funny, none of the act bosses 5-10 talk
NobleHelium: - 
well there are some talking characters
the three talk
Gaspar:
and nessa
NobleHelium: - 
a few of the gods talk
Gaspar:
its weird that kitava doesnt talk
NobleHelium: - 
too hungry to talk man
Gaspar:
id expect him to be all "feed me more"
NobleHelium: - 
mouth is only for one thing
when you're always hungry
Gaspar:
fair
i could go for some breakfast rn tbh
NobleHelium: - 
ok
done checking
but now i have a question
so piety finishes the silver mine this turn
Gaspar:
gj piety
NobleHelium: - 
my tentative plan is to have her go NE and chop that forest into the granary at BB
which we can complete the turn after the chop
and then we finish the spear with like 1h of decay or soemthing
after the chop she helps farm the wheat and it completes on the same turn as it would have if she had been farming the entire time (since farms take 5t)
do you agree with that, i.e. building the granary at BB at this time with the chop
Gaspar:
well
generically im ofc fine with it
but what are we doing at LW
are we building a wonder for culture
NobleHelium: - 
well i'm not sure
here's a pic
so given that oracle is out
Gaspar:
i mean the only wonders we can build
are gwall and mids
NobleHelium: - 
i'm inclined to say we build a granary and then a library
Gaspar:
and gwall is only 2cpt
and mids is too expensive
so yeah, i guess thats fine
NobleHelium: - 
well i think it's either gwall or a library
gwall might be better than a library
not sure
there's 7 forests with one chopped into the granary
that's 315h for mids
so yeah not close enough
so we could chop four forests into the granary and library i think
we can leave gwall alone
Gaspar:
yeah if we're going to build gwall
seems better to put it somewhere where the gpp is likely to matter
NobleHelium: - 
well we can use the gpp at LW
it's not that hard to pop out a spec when we work an engineer
but the second one would be wasted
pop out a gp rather
all right
back to the game
so since we're doing that
BB takes the deer this turn
works all 4 improved resources in range
Gaspar:
k
NobleHelium: - 
ts works triple cottages
still grows
Gaspar:
sure
NobleHelium: - 
whip granary at beacon
whip granary at ascent
overflow into work boat
Gaspar:
k
NobleHelium: - 
oriath goes back to the granary
Gaspar:
right
NobleHelium: - 
catarina roads the forest
going to cancel in case sd comes out of nowhere and sees the worker
Gaspar:
sure
NobleHelium: - 
we said both lw and hb axes stay put?
Gaspar:
yes
so what are our talkative bosses doing at ST
NobleHelium: - 
well one definitely goes 1S and cottages
Gaspar:
k
NobleHelium: - 
and i think the other one goes SW-NW, chops 1t, then goes 4N to mine chop the gfh that we've been working all game so that we can work it better
Gaspar:
seems reasonable
afterwards maybe he can road the deer ive been wanting roaded all game
NobleHelium: - 
the deer is likely to be roaded in the next 15t
or we might just road the pfh
and yeah i meant the pfh earlier, not gfh
Gaspar:
i knew what you meant
NobleHelium: - 
aight well i think that's it
Gaspar:
will SD stop spending EP on us before he is eliminated?
no, is my guess
NobleHelium: - 
he might remember to check it again in 10t
86/38/77
bob lost a turn of ep so we might be able to stop spending on him soon
Gaspar:
86/38/77
NobleHelium: - 
guangzhou was whipped
Gaspar:
alright
end turn?
NobleHelium: - 
yeah end turn
still 0% on mc right?
per our earlier discussion
Gaspar:
the demos wouldnt have matched if i turned tech on
NobleHelium: - 
right
but i just want to make sure we agree on that
Gaspar:
yes
NobleHelium: - 
you bulb guilds with a merchant by not teching math btw
Gaspar:
yeah
well that wasn't an option on account of we've already teched math
NobleHelium: - 
rusten serdoa sd's power all went up
Gaspar:
we definitely need some units
NobleHelium: - 
well beacon is due to complete one
Gaspar:
i am aware they're coming
i definitely want to a few in a row out of HB after the settler
just so i dont have to get paranoid everytime serdoa moves a unit
NobleHelium: - 
i dunno if we're actually doing that :P
we might need another worker
not sure yet
Gaspar:
so
LW next turn
marble after that
Beachhead after that
NobleHelium: - 
well it's t77 for lw
Gaspar:
we should explore the end of the peninsula in between ascent and LW
see if there's anything worth settling on the iceball island above it
NobleHelium: - 
well the ascent border is going to pop which shows two tiles
but yes we'll need a unit to see further than that
Gaspar:
could be our stone!
NobleHelium: - 
sending turn on
Gaspar:
maybe its got a tundra deer and no seafood #fuckpindicator
NobleHelium: - 
phat chance of that
Gaspar:
well Lew built oracle in his cap
he doesnt have marble
NobleHelium: - 
the top 5 cities seem to be taken by a rather small number of civs
Gaspar:
its rare
in a 6 player game
NobleHelium: - 
not sure if you checked top 5 at the beginning of the turn but
Gaspar:
that theres this much separation between the top 3 and the bottom 3
NobleHelium: - 
it showed that lew built henge in lucio, his second city
right now i am putting rusten in the LIMBO tier for his oracle failsauce
Gaspar:
lol
i mean truthfully
right now its
Lewwyn
<gap>
Us, Rusten
<large gap>
Serdoa, SD
<gap>
Bob
NobleHelium: - 
yeah so since there's no island north of beachhead
we are a bit short on land compared to lewwyn
so i am eying roadhog pretty greedily
Gaspar:
well
if theres an island
between marble and bob
i think we should make a play for that
NobleHelium: - 
there might be an island south of marble
that could be a reasonable settle
Gaspar:
so
are we heading for monarchy after calendar
i guess
its a question of when we expect our first GP
because I'd like to squeeze IW in there somewhere
NobleHelium: - 
well depending on how many units we need
we can build a forge in st and get 5 gpp/t

[novice]

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