American Politics Discussion Thread

[darrelljs]

538 has an interesting post election trend analysis up...

Darrell

[DaveV]

Thanks, Darrell, that *was* interesting.

[Jowy]

Another attempt by Republicans to throw away the results of Democrat winning states has been rejected by the Supreme Court.

I'm happy that stacking the court did not work out.

[Bobchillingworth]

Not sure I'd go that far. The judges simply aren't inclined to transform Trump's meritless, incompetent, borderline comical seditious rhetoric into an actual coup, thereby leading to the rapid disintegration of the United States as a political entity. That doesn't mean most of them aren't still cynical, partisan hacks, they're just intelligent enough to realize that they don't need to roll the dice on national suicide to achieve most of their priorities.

[Cyneheard]

Not sure I'd go that far.  The judges simply aren't inclined to transform Trump's meritless, incompetent, borderline comical seditious rhetoric into an actual coup, thereby leading to the rapid disintegration of the United States as a political entity.  That doesn't mean most of them aren't still cynical, partisan hacks, they're just intelligent enough to realize that they don't need to roll the dice on national suicide to achieve most of their priorities.

And they are immune to political pressure about whether or not they keep their jobs.

Judges have a policy agenda. This GOP has a political agenda - elect Trump and more Republicans. Those are diverging - the GOP didn’t even write a policy platform because they just don’t care.

Also, simply accepting standing in this case would have opened a gigantic can of worms - allowing a state to sue another state over its elections process would mean that states would be constantly litigating every single thing they don’t like about the other states in court. Judges pay attention to the long game.

[Jowy]

https://www.inquisitr.com/6416256/trump-...stroy-gop/

Trumpers are turning on GOP now. Good news or bad news? They want to destroy a bad party, but they want to do it to make an even worse party.

[Bobchillingworth]

I think it's all talk, unless Trump actually creates his own third party or something, and though he could raise a lot of cash off it I also think he's too lazy to bother.

[Brian Shanahan]

538 has an interesting post election trend analysis up...

Darrell

Of course, what the article doesn't mention is that Florida is the originator and lynchpin of the modern day republican Jim Crow strategy.

[Cyneheard]

I think it's all talk, unless Trump actually creates his own third party or something, and though he could raise a lot of cash off it I also think he's too lazy to bother.

We'll see hints of it in 2021, but the Virginia GOP surrendered to their crazy wing years ago and no one thinks the NJ GOP is capable of winning much of anything.

But I think you'll see the GOP try to primary Kemp for not supporting Trump - which is about as intelligent as the left trying to primary AOC because she ends voting Pelosi for Speaker.

A lot of it for Trump is going to depend on:
1) How much violence does he generate over the next 38 days?

2) What is his legal situation?

[MJW (ya that one)]

I think Trump doesn't want to declare now in case Biden doesn't run again (his age would be too much of a disadvantage) or he gets charged with something. Starting MAGA now allows him to keep up the anticipation and fundraise without having to drop. He also has to report to the FEC, for the rest of the cycle, even if he drops. 

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