What is the point of pushing so hard to overturn specifically Georgia?
Didnt trump lose by about 4-5 states?
Didnt trump lose by about 4-5 states?
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The only thing I can think of is that Georgia is the only one of the six swing states Biden won where the governor, Secretary of State and the entire legislature are GOP controlled. In the other five states one or more of those offices/bodies were Democrat-controlled. Theory 1 is that he views this as a betrayal by the state GOP and is reacting accordingly. Theory 2 is that he thinks because it's "GOP controlled" he can make demands that they'll carry out. These are not mutually exclusive.
I'm waiting to see if "the base" votes, votes but writes in Trump in sufficiently large numbers or just doesn't show up.
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Lost in the (completely justifiable) outrage over Trump's bullying, cajoling, rambling, and at times utterly incoherent phone call attempting to persuade the Georgia Secretary of State to commit criminal acts on his behalf: Trump will be presenting the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Devin Nunes and Jim Jordan. Jordan was the pro-Trump attack dog during the impeachment hearings; Nunes went scuttling to the White House to coordinate his press releases on (nonexistent) intelligence surveillance of the Trump campaign. Both are back-benchers who haven't accomplished much other than being Trumpy.
(January 4th, 2021, 06:14)DaveV Wrote: Lost in the (completely justifiable) outrage over Trump's bullying, cajoling, rambling, and at times utterly incoherent phone call attempting to persuade the Georgia Secretary of State to commit criminal acts on his behalf: Trump will be presenting the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Devin Nunes and Jim Jordan. Jordan was the pro-Trump attack dog during the impeachment hearings; Nunes went scuttling to the White House to coordinate his press releases on (nonexistent) intelligence surveillance of the Trump campaign. Both are back-benchers who haven't accomplished much other than being Trumpy. Don't forget Devin Nunes' biggest accomplishment: Suing a cow and therefore @DevinCow has hundreds of Ks of followers.
The transcript is even worse than I expected. Not the sound bite “find votes” piece that CNN et. al. are trumpeting; that’s taken out of context. What’s worse is just how certain Trump is that he couldn’t have lost. He’s 100% positive. He really believes it. This is not an attempt to steal an election. This is, in his mind, an attempt to take back an election that was stolen
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