American Politics Discussion Thread

[Thoth]

I've been lurking this whole saga out of curiosity even though I don't know much about stocks. My only opinion is that if I was in the shoes of those GME investors, I would have cashed out at least enough to cover the initial investment or even pocket a small profit. Then you can hold the rest in peace and find out what happens.

Agreed, though this last week has been very educational for me. I've invested a lot of time in learning about how this game works. Both for the sake of interest and understanding of what has been going on but also so that I can potentially be in position to make a profit the next time (and there will be) a horde of noobs get duped into throwing their money at something they don't understand.

I didn't come across this whole thing until early last week and at that time it was looking to me like a bubble was forming based on the hype. But the way to make money from a bubble is to sell into it, not buy into it so I've been lurking instead of playing.

[suboptimal]

I've been lurking this whole saga out of curiosity even though I don't know much about stocks. My only opinion is that if I was in the shoes of those GME investors, I would have cashed out at least enough to cover the initial investment or even pocket a small profit. Then you can hold the rest in peace and find out what happens.

Agreed, though this last week has been very educational for me. I've invested a lot of time in learning about how this game works.  Both for the sake of interest and understanding of what has been going on but also so that I can potentially be in position to make a profit the next time (and there will be) a horde of noobs get duped into throwing their money at something they don't understand.

I didn't come across this whole thing until early last week and at that time it was looking to me like a bubble was forming based on the hype.  But the way to make money from a bubble is to sell into it, not buy into it so I've been lurking instead of playing.

Exactly.  Usually you need to have your own money on the line and learn from your own mistakes, the difficulty of which is compounded by your own (or rather, human) psychology.   In this case, though, there are hundreds (if not thousands) of people posting all of their mistakes in real time that can be used as examples of what not to do.  Read, learn and attempt to profit.

[darrelljs]

I found this report on the potential impact of generational change on voting patterns quite interesting.

Darrell

[Jowy]

Republican voters don't seem too remorseful over their domestic terrorism. I've been lurking conservative corners of the internet and the cool thing to do right now is to make fun of AOC's traumatic experience, where she was fearing for her life and hiding as she was being hunted by thousands of terrorists literally out for blood (remember, the goal of the Republican terrorists was to execute every Democrat for being pedophiles, especially hunting for AOC and Nancy Pelosi as women in power triggers the conservatives more than anything). The experience is as if you're a student in a school shooting, except instead of one guy, it is thousands looking specifically to kill YOU, not to mention you can't even trust the cops as they are overwhelmingly Republican. The fact that the domestic terrorist attack happened was insane enough, but the Republican base largely supporting it and making fun of the survivors after the fact is even more insane to me. Then again, only 11 Republicans in the House supported to strip Republican representative Marjorie Taylor Greene of House Committee Assignments, and she is literally both a Q-Anon believer (the conspiracy theory that largely drove the terrorist attack) AND a school shooting (such as Sandy Hook) denier. Can't wait for T-Hawk to swoop in to point out that making fun of people who were close to being killed by terrorists is not technically against the law thus it is perfectly reasonable and good.

[CFCJesterFool]

Molly Ball is my hero! Go read the Time article. LMAO!

[T-hawk]

remember, the goal of the Republican terrorists was to execute every Democrat for being pedophiles

What in the world are you talking about? Nothing even remotely close to that happened. Please stop following the delusions of the fake news.

Yes, the Republicans are going to make fun of the Democratic response when it's that unhinged.

As for Ocasio-Cortez, she was in an office building several hundred meters away, where no activity was happening. I don't doubt she was fearful - at the time nobody knew what the end point of the activity would be - but aftewards she was clearly crying for the cameras.

[Jowy]

remember, the goal of the Republican terrorists was to execute every Democrat for being pedophiles

What in the world are you talking about?  Nothing even remotely close to that happened.  Please stop following the delusions of the fake news.

I'm talking about the Q-Anon conspiracy theory that has a large following among Republican voters who have "done their own research", which is what they say when they mean they read a Facebook page about it or listened to some psycho on a podcast. The core idea of the conspiracy theory is that Trump is fighting the leftist deep-state that worships Satan and trafficks children. Trump was supposed to hold public tribunals where he executes every Democrat for being pedophiles. And yes, no shit none of it happened, it's a goddamn insane conspiracy theory that started as a 4chan meme, but it's something that many Republicans legitimately believe in. Things like that are what led to the terrorist attack. Sure you got the actual white supremacist nazi group Proud Boys in there (recently classified as a terrorist organization by Canada btw), but they are only a small part and wouldn't be able to do what was done without the masses of delusional Republicans who believe in conspiracy theories like Q-Anon or that the election was stolen. I'm not "following the delusions of the fake news", I'm observing the delusions of the Republicans.

Yes, the Republicans are going to make fun of the Democratic response when it's that unhinged.

As for Ocasio-Cortez, she was in an office building several hundred meters away, where no activity was happening.  I don't doubt she was fearful - at the time nobody knew what the end point of the activity would be - but aftewards she was clearly crying for the cameras.

Hmm..

Marjorie Taylor Greene mocked Parkland survivor in unearthed video: An 'idiot' who's trained 'like a dog'
"He only talks when he is scripted," Marjorie Taylor Greene said of David Hogg in a 2019 interview with a Georgia gun group

In one corner we have our very own T-Hawk. In the other corner, we have the Republican representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, who has believed in the Q-Anon conspiracy theory claiming that former President Donald Trump was waging a clandestine war on a Satan-worshipping cabal of child-abusers and cannibals, claimed that no plane ever hit Pentagon on 9/11, claimed that school shootings such as the attack on Sandy Hook elementary school were staged to enact stricter gun control, and openly advocated for violence against her fellow House members. Both of them are attacking a survivor of a domestic terrorist attack in order to discredit them by claiming that they are only doing it for the cameras.

[T-hawk]

I'm talking about the Q-Anon conspiracy theory that has a large following among Republican voters

You don't even know if this is a large following. You're still believing the fake news that is deceiving you into believing that the following is large.

At any rate, you don't need any conspiracy theory to believe the underlying issue. That states and counties illegitimately changed election and voting rules with the intent and result of favoring the Democrats enough to swing the election. Even Democrats believe that happened to a substantial extent; they're just cheering it because it benefited their side, and inventing after-the-fact rationalizations why literally breaking laws was good.

This isn't exactly fraud, which is why the media claims of "no fraud" are true, at least beyond some small numbers here and there. That's deliberately the claim they focus on, because it sounds credible while they deliberately ignore the rest of the issue. This is the "steal", and the correct response to election illegitimacy is indeed to protest and make your voices heard.

[Bobchillingworth]

This is getting embarrassing. Consider abandoning political commentary, and return to your comparatively more dignified obsession with a cartoon about magical ponies for little girls.

[darrelljs]

https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-poll-beli...ol-1566034

I make no judgement on the threshold for “large following” but we don’t have to speculate what the numbers are.

Darrell