American Politics Discussion Thread

[Mjmd]

To change the subject. What should happen with Haiti? Both Darrell and I agree US is really bad at intervening places, but when it can't get much worse? But you don't want to prop up an illegitimate government. But there is mass human suffering. I don't know what the best path is.

[Boro]

Perhaps it's for the best if washington keeps from meddling with other countries' internal affairs.

[mackoti]

Perhaps it's for the best if washington keeps from meddling with other countries' internal affairs.

The medling is not always bad. At least in our case wasnt, all major poitical parties were working to fire Laura Kovesi as general atourney, because she put some big names behind the bars,and US embasy said you dont touch here and we had the most corrupt people put behin the bars. Of course after that ambasador was retreat they mangae dot fire her, but still she was great for some years with corupt politician realy beeng afraid.Good times, now slowly return to the previous status...unfortunately

[darrelljs]

Read the wiki article on U.S. military operations and it’s a long list of protecting our interests with little in the way of altruism. Read about the American occupation of Haiti from 1915-1934 for example before thinking maybe we should go in. For fun, here is a list of full blown wars and my grade on whether they were moral / effective (e.g. the Revolutionary War was mostly moral and very effect achieving the long term goal):

Revolutionary War: 7 / 10
Cherokee War: 0 / 9
War of 1812: 9 / 2
Seminole War: 0 / 7
Mexican/American War: 0 / 10
Civil War: 0 / 0 (South) & 10 / 10 (North)
Hawaiian Invasion: 0 / 10
Spanish-American War: 6 / 9
Philippine-American War: 0 / 2
WW1: 7 / 5
WW2: 10 / 9
Korean War: 7 / 7
Vietnam War: 2 / 1 <— biggest moral difference with Korean War being lack of UN sponsorship
Gulf War: 6 / 9
Afghan War : 6 / 3
Iraq War : 0 / 2

Darrell

[Tarkeel]

Deciding whether people deserve to die or live based on whether they contribute to society or not, is not a road you want to take.

Agreed. Not to Godwin the discussion, but that's actually literal Nazism.

[superdeath]

[Jowy]

He got you fully on his side when he said he needs a shotgun for the zombies

[superdeath]

lol. Well, i mean.. what are you gonna do when the zombies show up? :P

[Mjmd]

“Here’s the deal: Comms is going to continue to fan the flame and get the word out about Democrats trying to steal this election. We’ll do whatever they need. Just be on standby if there’s any stunts we need to pull,” Iverson said.

https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/tru...-the-flame

Some more lovely WI shenanigan's in 2020.

[Kristian95]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxrANYjq2i8

I'd like to hear how anyone can refute what is being said in this video!