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Its pretty common in high technology that you need to either develop yourself or bring in outside expertise / pay for it / steal it. Obviously we are behind on the develop ourselves so it makes sense to bring in outside expertise. Besides the set up jobs are temporary, the manufacturing jobs are permanent.
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(August 10th, 2023, 03:30)Boro Wrote: Never interrupt an enemy
Sorry. I am not up to speed in this thread. Who are the enemies you are referencing?
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I'm assuming he means US. Boro is pretty anti west.
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(August 11th, 2023, 16:58)Mjmd Wrote: I'm assuming he means US. Boro is pretty anti west.
which i find rather amusing like, despite the west being well.. corrupt and full of problems, what could the west be compared to that isnt flatly outmatched?
"Superdeath seems to have acquired a rep for aggression somehow. ![[Image: noidea.gif]](https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/images/smilies/noidea.gif) In this game that's going to help us because he's going to go to the negotiating table with twitchy eyes and slightly too wide a grin and terrify the neighbors into favorable border agreements, one-sided tech deals and staggered NAPs."
-Old Harry. PB48.
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(August 11th, 2023, 16:58)Mjmd Wrote: I'm assuming he means US. Boro is pretty anti west.
I kind of get that. Since the US and Taiwan are "allies"  , I am wondering who their enemy is. Which party is Boro playing?
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Maybe its the westerner in me, but maybe countries borders should basically stay how they are. (cept some middle east stuff, like giving various groups their own country... Kurds?) Taiwan should just be officially recognized already. Screw china's poor little feelings.
"Superdeath seems to have acquired a rep for aggression somehow. In this game that's going to help us because he's going to go to the negotiating table with twitchy eyes and slightly too wide a grin and terrify the neighbors into favorable border agreements, one-sided tech deals and staggered NAPs."
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My view is that war is really really really bad. Its not a complicated viewpoint. There are a lot of messy borders in the world. A lot of old claims. A lot of even older claims. And then some truly absurd claims people will still fight over anyways. There is hatred real and imagined. None of it justifies war.
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(August 11th, 2023, 20:34)superdeath Wrote: Maybe its the westerner in me, but maybe countries borders should basically stay how they are. (cept some middle east stuff, like giving various groups their own country... Kurds?) Taiwan should just be officially recognized already. Screw china's poor little feelings.
Yea, It's the westerner in you. Quite a confusing statement you have there.
Quote: Since the founding of the People's Republic of China in 1949, 181 countries (which includes the UK, Canada, Australia, Japan and the U.S.) have established diplomatic relations with China on the basis of the one-China principle. The one-China principle is a universal consensus of the international community and a basic norm in international relations
So "stay how they are", Taiwan should remain part of China. No?
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(August 11th, 2023, 21:29)Mjmd Wrote: My view is that war is really really really bad. Its not a complicated viewpoint. There are a lot of messy borders in the world. A lot of old claims. A lot of even older claims. And then some truly absurd claims people will still fight over anyways. There is hatred real and imagined. None of it justifies war.
Ditto. Especially when we are talking about 2 major nuclear powers. No one wins.
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Seems like it should be up to the Taiwanese to me. US never recognized Chinese sovereignty over and after recognized the PRC also passed the Taiwan relations act to insure its safety. It also sets forth expectation that the future of Taiwan will be determined by peaceful means.
To give you an example where this works against the west see Kuril islands. Japan claims them but 2/4 Russia colonized with Russians and Ukrainians after WWII. I would also propose they decide their fate. It almost certainly would go against Japan, but again not worth a war over.
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