Cyneheard's PBEM10 Thread

[Cyneheard]

Well, mea culpa on the rules disputes, I can't say I've always been helpful there...


On to this game, and how it'll need to be run over the weekend (ASM, I'll let you know if I'm going to have 'Net access over the weekend after all).

Chuck the exploring warrior:
Follow the coast. Keep on going northwest.

And the island to my SE looks interesting. My guess? This is a contested island between me and someone to my east or southeast. And there are usable resources there, too. Don't forget, the 3-tile rule does NOT apply across continents.



Every turn, grab the demogs screenshot. Can't hurt.

Oh, and in C&D news: Serdoa (Qin) discovered Agriculture. Why was it Agriculture? Well, if he went Mysticism or Fishing and wanted to disguise it by delaying a turn or two, he could have, but he's Russia. Hunting/Mining leaves fairly weak options for a worker first strategy: Improving a furs or ivory doesn't provide any food, and neither do mined hills.

[Cyneheard]

Let's see:
New techs:
Ad Hoc as Gilgamesh: Animal Husbandry.
Meatbalz as Boudica: Presumably Agriculture, but why did it take him 1t longer? Even working a non-commerce tile wouldn't explain it: 10bpt instead of 11bpt still finishes the 56bpt tech of Agriculture in 6t. And it took him 7t. He didn't do a religion, because the religions haven't been founded.
Definitely didn't add any soldier points, since all of the increase can be explained by Ad Hoc's 2k from AH, and with Myst/Wheel, he couldn't have anyway.

[Cyneheard]

Well, Meatbalz (Boudica) is clearly screwing with us:
He finished his 2nd tech last turn. That's 2 techs in 9t. I'll have to figure out what's going on there tomorrow, and post the demogs in general.

However, I think there will be a way to figure out what he took...clearly one of the techs was cheap. So Fishing/Agri might make sense?

[Cyneheard]

T9 Demogs:



T11 was essentially the same.

Tech Guesses:
Animal Husbandry for TT (Genghis) and Tatan (Napoleon). Makes the power work out right, and the timing.

Already had Serdoa (Qin) on Agriculture, and Ad Hoc on AH.

Meatbalz (Boudica): Oh boy. I'm going to go with Fishing/Agriculture, just because of power. No religions were discovered, and nothing else that he could have teched would have provided 0 power.

And, note that someone's got 20GNP. They're working a 2-commerce tile, likely in the water. But haven't built a workboat, because the crop yield isn't right for that (unless it's about to settle this turn, in which case we'll see a 6- or 7-food crop yield next turn. A proper WB build should be pumping out 3-4hpt early, and have finished already.

[Cyneheard]

Let's see, what have we here?

Pop 2: Genghis (TT) and Qin (Serdoa) grew to size 2.
One of them is working 10 food, which is probably from a netted fish + 3 food land tile.

Techs discovered:
Everybody but Boudica (meatbalz). Best guesses:
Qin: Animal Husbandry.
Genghis: Mining.
Napoleon (Tatan): Mining.
Gilgamesh (Ad Hoc): Mining.
That means someone besides Genghis or Napoleon completed a warrior. My guess? Qin.

[Cyneheard]

T14:



So, 400 of that 1200 in power was from 2 pop gains: Boudica and Gilgamesh. 2 warriors completed. One of them was Genghis, as he's now at 13k. Napoleon did NOT complete the other warrior: he's still at 6k power. Interesting that everyone else decided to start growing right away.

[Cyneheard]

T15:



Size 2: Napoleon. That's it. Next turn.

[Cyneheard]

T16:



Qin finished a tech. Guessing Fishing. It had to be 0 power, and a cheap tech.

I'm going to change my guess of techs discovered:
My hunch is now that Gilgamesh (Ad Hoc) discovered The Wheel back on T12 or whenever that was. I don't know why he would do that; with no neighbors, BW is key for fast growth. Pottery is 2nd priority.

[Cyneheard]

Well, I'm an idiot.

Qin didn't finish the tech LAST turn (he grew to size 3). He finished the tech THIS turn.



So, let's see:
Qin and Gilga are both size 3.
My guesses for tech?
Bronze Working for Qin.
AH for Meatbalz.
Mysticism for Gilga, not sure why, but it fits. I'm hopeless off on techs at this point, I'm afraid...

[antisocialmunky]

Do you have a spreadsheet you're using for you data? It would be fun to look at.