(April 4th, 2024, 17:11)Miguelito Wrote: After we offer War with GKC to metal, he sends a stack and walks it all the way around GKC's territory through ours, while ignoring his former city whose first ring he still controls. However he has no engineering and we outrun his units. Guess we'll see yet if they'lll be good for something.
did you see that stack of metal's, SW of Fifth Horseman? It has like 30 units in it, nothing to be sneezed at. I would not have minded him taking Wonsan and removing all that culture, but okok, this might also be helpful if he joins our push....
He just missed his turn . And I even PM'd him back homeat Civforum.
(April 4th, 2024, 23:09)Mjmd Wrote: In hindsite do you wish you hadn't teched drama or still glad for the free uber tech even if it obsoleted Colossus?
As I said, it's one of the most awesome things in a game of mine ever. I consider it a win in itself.
Now, if it's actually beneficial for our situation... I'm rather more skeptical than Ginger. I suspect the delay on Rifling is rather on the order of 4-5 tuns, especially if costs increase now that we are planting on overseas islands, but admittedly Ginger hasa better grasp on the . Also we whipped settlers and galleons, taking away focus from our still existential war.
DZ is straight up ripping through MS right now, so it all depends on what happens to us on the GKC front. If we break through it's all good we'll get our conquest, will have an army to respond to any DZ invasion, and will have astro islands and a huge pile of free beakers on top. However if we lose a substantial part of the army or get bogged down again, DZ might be in a position to take Atlantis before we have rifles, and then that's game over for us. But really, having done this in a Pitboss is worth it either way. It's not like we had a clear path to victory before, and in that sense it probably increases our (outside) chances.
I really wanna know Pindicator's thought process
"Let me reject Egypt's war with Dono offer and instead offer fish fish while poaching their conquest overseas with knights against rifles"
Really?
If I dont see Dono's coastals go up in flames or receive some more encouraging diplo I'm gonna kick him off the island. Ridiculous
Once the Island of Love, our little continent lately has performed as Hilarity Haven. The jokes being at our expense frequently doesn't make them less funny.
When GKC declared on us, we crushed his 2 millenia built up stack, and then went on the offense, I invited metal to join. After all, GKC had attacked him in ancient times, and taken the city of Wonsan from him, which ever since had been pressed against Korean borders.
Surely metal would want it back, and after our attack only a 4 unit garrison remained. And indeed, metal joined our attack!
This is the path his (numerous) stack took. (reconstructed, and a number of turns were played by Ginger)
Of course, without engineering, they had a hard time keeping up with our units even considering we had to heal at times because we were doing the fighting against GKC after all. I think they were somewhere around the circle when Donovan Zoi attacked metal, who in turn signed peace with GKC to get his stack home for defense. So now Wonsan still remains French
Which is pretty bad for us, because of course Donovan has OB with GKC and can now ride straight into our south. We are going to shut this down one way or another in the next few turns, but it's really quite unfortunate (and funny)
The picture is from the current turn. Takeaways:
We took GKC's capital this turn. It cost us 11 siege units, but then we killed on the order of 20 LBs/CBs without losses. Next turn his last mainland city should fall.
pindicator poached (Rheims in fact was Korean briefly), inciting Ginger's indignation and rage. We probably could do something about it, but we have bigger fish to fry in my opinion, so I returned peaceful signals.
It's turn 176 and we're starting our research on Code of Laws . Yes we're Org.
We were first to a relevant military tech for once . Let's see what good it does us.
Telling stats:
Our infrastructure is really just the monks and the shrine. We will eternally reject the superstition of the "Scientific Method" - unlike Commodore, who beelined it. I expect a Communism run, in an attempt to Zerg Gavagai's runaway economy.
I myself feel pretty much out of the running. We'll keep trying to unify our continent, and then to survive Gavagai getting Combustion.
pindi also had sent a (larger) knight stack. We could just manage to get the city with war chariots and amphibious muskets. pinid had sent fish/fish which we reciprocated, demanding also the resources of the island of Marseilles. Him attacking would throw us off further, but then his knights can eat rifles. so I hope he can live with this partition.
Took these out atthe cost of a knight to prevent a fork this turn. DZ has stacked Wonsan so we can't raze it for now. DZ seems en route to some Hail Mary knight rush, let's see if he follows through.
(April 17th, 2024, 19:40)Gavagai Wrote: Oh, Donovan did not even forget, he needs to play after the Egypt team. Do they have a three-way split? We really need to adopt an etiquette rule that those should be avoided by any means possible.
UPD It's GKC->Egypt->Donovan->metal wtf.
It's actually worse:
Pindicator->GKC->Egypt->Donovan->metal
yeah it's pretty bad, and I feel I have a bit of guilt in that... Anyways I would propose that GKC switch to after us, then we have
pindi/us -> GKC and
us->DZ->metal (unsolvable sadly because we're all active around there).
Since GKC already is logging in on our side of the split I think it should work. It gives us a double move against him, but he now has just one mainland city left, with a 2LB garrison, so does it really matter much?
Lurkers please give an ok (or not) and I'd communicate it with the other players involved per PM.
I think this is one case, where you can (and should) communicate. I think, GKC/DZ -> pindi/us/metal could be better ? But maybe not that easy to switch.
I should read all threads first. You already switched
Exciting moment. DZ is moving on metal's capital, but brought no siege. metal has a lot of rocket launchers, but not that many hitters. I had sent him iron for iron, but somehow that didn't encourage him to collateral the Inca stack. So this turn (with DZ->metal to play after us) I moved what knights were available from Sky Falling into metal's capital.
DZ can now attack into our highly promoted knights and metal's war elephants (with the 1 movers crossing the river), or retreat. As long as metal uses his collateral DZ's stack should not get home.
The wildcard is pindicator, who is sitting with no less than 30 knights in Rheims. We exchanged fish/fish, and he sees our rifles trickling in, so hopefully he respects that.
Meanwhile we are whipping rifles mercilessly, and reaping the first fruits. We took Bikini Atoll with only a few losses in catapults. Welcome Home. We got resistance despite still having 80% culture on the tile, but I already forgot the mechanics discussion from a while ago. Probably because we didn't found it?
Attacking into castle protected cities with gunpowder units sure feels nice
We'll see how we can push further from here. Magic Science gave us OB, so maybe something is possible there... But mostly we are still building up the rifles stack, and should not get overconfident again. If we can defeat DZ in Korea and send part of the knights north we might achieve overwhelming force.
. And I even PM'd him back homeat Civforum. 
. Yes we're Org. 
. Let's see what good it does us. 
