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(July 17th, 2024, 10:38)T-hawk Wrote: You're all missing this point: This is only talking about the FEDERAL department. It's not talking about ending public schooling. Just leave it to states and localities, let them compete to deliver better systems. There's no need for this department at the federal level, it's only tax-wasting bureaucracy.
Do you know how old the federal department is? Only from 1980. The world wars, moon landing, computers, and all that, all happened without any federally directed education.
ah yes, leave it to the state so we have more Louisiana's. Great idea.
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I don't currently live in the south, but I spent a fair amount of my life growing up there.
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I got curious about the history, and was surprised to see the Depart of Education didn't exist before Congress enacted or in 1979 Edit: typo - had '69 here - but that's a bit deceiving to just leave it at that because it makes it sound like nothing was done about education at a federal level before then.
Was very surprised to see it was Andrew Jackson who first created a federal Dept for Education in 1867 or 68 - I'm already forgetting the exact year - but then it got rolled into the Department of the Interior a year later. (Seriously, Jackson would have been one of my last guesses if this was a trivia question.) So there was some kind of federal oversight for 110 years, it just didn't get it's own department or a big budget until around 1980.
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I didn't think they'd ever get enough pressure on him to get the resignation, but they did. Who knows what kind of dirt they had on "Doctor" Jill? Fun for future historians.
He endorsed Harris on the way out, so now the Democrats are guaranteed to lose. Their best hope is that the economy crashes after the election rather than before so Trump ends up holding the bag.
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Heh he did the right thing. I didn't figure that either.
I think this is their best way to win. A LOT of people were worried about his age / very unexcited to be voting old guy vs old guy again. Don't know if it will work still.
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The best way to win would be to slip enough dirty money around to get Newsom or someone like him on the front of the ticket. Harris is a perfect storm for being an obnoxious TV candidate, owing to her generally unpleasant demeanor and political history of sleeping up the ladder. Progressive voters who would normally go gaga over a double minority also despise her for being an effective prosecutor (this makes me wonder if she would actually do a decent job if she was allowed to make decisions as president. How much of the bad shit the Biden administration has been doing was on her hands? Hard to say...)
The democrats still might just cheat super hard to win, giving the millions of illegal immigrants who came in the last four years free ballots with their airplane tickets, but they would have to cheat a lot harder to make a Harris win look convincing compared to a Newsom win.
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(July 21st, 2024, 17:56)Mjmd Wrote: I think this is their best way to win. A LOT of people were worried about his age / very unexcited to be voting old guy vs old guy again. Don't know if it will work still.
Unfortunately (from my POV), I think you're right. Kamala is going to get quite a significant bump for feeling like fresh blood and energy compared to the old guys. The messaging that's going to work will be to frame herself as "better than Biden" and just ignore Trump.
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I mean its pretty easy to also say "better than Trump". That was basically Bidens platform and the main thing keeping that platform from working again was his age.
Ignoring the Greenline conspiracies because we've gone over them over enough by now hopefully people know they aren't supported in fact or logic.
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It's still the same vote as before.
You want democracy or fascism.
Just that democracy is now a couple decades younger than fascism.
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It's fascism then no matter how you slice it, because behaviots such as labelmongering any dissent as russian talking points, putin's propaganda and whatnot, (and ignoring evidence) nigh-obsession with great men (ignoring business forces and expecting changing a figurehead to result in meaningful changes), extreme moral and legal relativism that can turn a whistlebloweer into an espionage act violator or vice versa, based on the nomenklatura's momentary political interest, does not look compatible with democratic ideals either.
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