So I've been trying to beat Deity (on Civ 4) for awhile. I don't get a whole lot of time to play, and originally I had wanted to try and get a win in before Civ 5 came out, because once it did then I knew I would never play Civ 4 again because all my time would be spent playing the glory of the latest version.
Since that hasn't exactly happened
I dusted things off today and thought I'd share what I'm up to.
To start - the guide that I'm basically following is located here. Basically, you try and found "blocking" cities to get enough land, tech to Aesthetics, use that to trade for Alpha / Math / IW, chop out the Great Library, and use the 2-3 scientists you get from it to bulb your way up to Liberalism. Then use drafted rifles to take out a neighbor or two, which should give you enough land to win by various means.
So I started several months ago, but then realized upon looking in my HoF that I had never actually won on Immortal, so I thought I'd try that first. After a few false starts, I got pretty good at that - I think I've now won 6 games there, with various leaders (Willem, Liz, Gandhi, etc). So I went back to Deity.
I realize that there are a few "cheese" ways to improve chances, such as Willem on an Archipelago, or something involving a Praetorian rush, but I wanted to try it as close to "regular" as possible. I did choose Willem as my leader of choice. Financial is great of course, and I think Creative is very important when trying to do the land grab. Not having to chop out those monuments, or worry about settling 2 off resources is great. And the Dike is a very solid UB.
I've tried to avoid stacking things too much. I generally don't just play the very first map I roll, but nor do I spend hours (or use a Map Finder program) picking a map. I've settled on Fractal map - standard and normal speed.
So I had a few false starts.
![[Image: civ4screenshot0000p.jpg]](http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8576/civ4screenshot0000p.jpg)
Here was one where I got TGL and Liberalism, but I failed on the seal. You can see how I sent Utrecht and The Hague west to seal off Mansa, but he snuck in Walata. The AI is programmed not to go through your borders to settle (even if you have OB), but Walata gave him an alleyway, and he snuck in those 5 cities circled in red. With those, I'd have been up to 11 cities, but without them I only had 6, and even though I had managed to take a few cities off of Mansa, I just wasn't big enough.
And for every game that got to this stage, there were probably a few where I died (or gave up) earlier.
I started another Deity game that was going a bit better, but it's on my other computer, so it will have to be another post.
Since that hasn't exactly happened
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To start - the guide that I'm basically following is located here. Basically, you try and found "blocking" cities to get enough land, tech to Aesthetics, use that to trade for Alpha / Math / IW, chop out the Great Library, and use the 2-3 scientists you get from it to bulb your way up to Liberalism. Then use drafted rifles to take out a neighbor or two, which should give you enough land to win by various means.
So I started several months ago, but then realized upon looking in my HoF that I had never actually won on Immortal, so I thought I'd try that first. After a few false starts, I got pretty good at that - I think I've now won 6 games there, with various leaders (Willem, Liz, Gandhi, etc). So I went back to Deity.
I realize that there are a few "cheese" ways to improve chances, such as Willem on an Archipelago, or something involving a Praetorian rush, but I wanted to try it as close to "regular" as possible. I did choose Willem as my leader of choice. Financial is great of course, and I think Creative is very important when trying to do the land grab. Not having to chop out those monuments, or worry about settling 2 off resources is great. And the Dike is a very solid UB.
I've tried to avoid stacking things too much. I generally don't just play the very first map I roll, but nor do I spend hours (or use a Map Finder program) picking a map. I've settled on Fractal map - standard and normal speed.
So I had a few false starts.
![[Image: civ4screenshot0000p.jpg]](http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8576/civ4screenshot0000p.jpg)
Here was one where I got TGL and Liberalism, but I failed on the seal. You can see how I sent Utrecht and The Hague west to seal off Mansa, but he snuck in Walata. The AI is programmed not to go through your borders to settle (even if you have OB), but Walata gave him an alleyway, and he snuck in those 5 cities circled in red. With those, I'd have been up to 11 cities, but without them I only had 6, and even though I had managed to take a few cities off of Mansa, I just wasn't big enough.
And for every game that got to this stage, there were probably a few where I died (or gave up) earlier.
I started another Deity game that was going a bit better, but it's on my other computer, so it will have to be another post.