[SPOILERS] Ioan's first attempt to Civ6 world

[Ioan76]

Well... this was probably a delicate way to point out that I'm a idiot that I didn't accepted yet friendship of Persia.

Which I did right now.
I check also Zulu's cities and status: he's at 6 cities and have horses - so my assumption is that he and Persia should be able to resist Nubia' special archers until I get crossbow to counter them.

[Ioan76]

Well, overall situation is bad.

Even if I'm just 2 turns away from Crossbows - which could get me a chance to stand against Nubia' special archers - it seems that Military Score of both Zulu and Persia decrease too fast. While Nubia's one goes beyond 1300!!!
Just to amuse myself I'll probably declare war upon Rusia. More likely the game will have a runaway leader soon - even for the moment I didn't notice any city-exchange from Diplomacy screen.

[Ioan76]

OK, it looks like we are done this game - at from my point of view.

[suboptimal]

OK, is that a concession? Just want to clarify.

[Ioan76]

OK, is that a concession?  Just want to clarify.

Not sure how an official concession would look like but is close to this. 

I played suboptimal ( no pun intended   ) but the map also hate me. How to gift such a huge defensive bonus like between Rome and Russia? 

[Bruindane]

First let's explain which was my idea to approach this game after I saw that the map is a real rich one: to maximize growth of my cities as much as possible in order to be able ~T90-100 to have 2-3 REALLY BIG cities + several others in strategic locations.
For that reason I picked Fertility Rites as my belief and I was aiming for that Religious Building which provide Faith + Food + 1 Housing ( can't remember now the name... ). I even planned/hoped to be able to build Hanging Gardens for this purpose... so naïve... 

That's because I didn't realize how fast wars between players will happen!! 

As a prove: is just T72 and I felt somehow forced to declare a surprise war against Persia/Archduke... because I'm quite sure that he was on the verge to do the same to me - and at least this way I avoided his units to became superblitzkrieg-able due to his unique Civ-ability. 

Nevertheless, the units mobilized for war in West are ( still ) few... is more a desperate attempt to orchestrate a pre-emptive action than anything else.

I liked your building plan, it may have worked for an age, as there was plenty of land to settle.  I'm a single player builder-type, so my liking isn't due to strategic insights on my part.

I spent about two weeks focused on this thread, and by declaring friendship with Russia, I expected war between you and Persia eventually.  If there was to be war, a surprise attack made sense to me, as Persia's ability is dreadful.  It felt fair that it was a real attack, however small, as Persia wasn't allowed to do a tactical dow, though the outcomes didn't justify the fairness of it.

You did mention that you wanted to do diplomacy, to contain Nubia earlier, but couldn't due to in-game limitations.   Any ideas on how to make that better?

[Ioan76]

First let's explain which was my idea to approach this game after I saw that the map is a real rich one: to maximize growth of my cities as much as possible in order to be able ~T90-100 to have 2-3 REALLY BIG cities + several others in strategic locations.
For that reason I picked Fertility Rites as my belief and I was aiming for that Religious Building which provide Faith + Food + 1 Housing ( can't remember now the name... ). I even planned/hoped to be able to build Hanging Gardens for this purpose... so naïve... 

That's because I didn't realize how fast wars between players will happen!! 

As a prove: is just T72 and I felt somehow forced to declare a surprise war against Persia/Archduke... because I'm quite sure that he was on the verge to do the same to me - and at least this way I avoided his units to became superblitzkrieg-able due to his unique Civ-ability. 

Nevertheless, the units mobilized for war in West are ( still ) few... is more a desperate attempt to orchestrate a pre-emptive action than anything else.

I liked your building plan, it may have worked for an age, as there was plenty of land to settle.  I'm a single player builder-type, so my liking isn't due to strategic insights on my part.

Same here - I'm also more a single-player builder-type.
However, I should admit that my first experience with Multiplayer in Civ 6 was a totally, totally disaster.

I spent about two weeks focused on this thread, and by declaring friendship with Russia, I expected war between you and Persia eventually.  If there was to be war, a surprise attack made sense to me, as Persia's ability is dreadful.  It felt fair that it was a real attack, however small, as Persia wasn't allowed to do a tactical dow, though the outcomes didn't justify the fairness of it.

At the moment when I finally declared war against Persia I was, more or less, in a "mental concede" status because I realized that the game has a runaway leader.
So yeah, I attacked before I could get all 3-4 legions which I had on the map near Persian-city.

You did mention that you wanted to do diplomacy, to contain Nubia earlier, but couldn't due to in-game limitations.   Any ideas on how to make that better?

TBH - not really.
It was somehow even worse than it was visible: virtually both Russia and Persia tried to not annoy Nubia so they started to settle close to my borders, which pressure me even more so I was forced to be somehow willing to attack them and so on. And in the way Nubia consumed them all anyway.   

Totally stupid game!!!