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WW48: Melllvar's Grand Competition!
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(October 6th, 2020, 10:30)sunrise089 Wrote: Lewwyn, why are you defending so much during the night? Either you die or you’re revealed as town or you can have all this discussion in like 30 minutes Because they attacked me first and I'm just responding...
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
October 6th, 2020, 10:37
What is the advantage of responding now? How does the timing of the exchange benefit the town? Feel free to answer right at deadline.
(October 6th, 2020, 10:37)sunrise089 Wrote: What is the advantage of responding now? How does the timing of the exchange benefit the town? Feel free to answer right at deadline. One advantage I see: this is a discussion so several view-points are explored. A single end of night post is just a monologue with a lot less value IMO.
October 6th, 2020, 10:48
Right, so there's like zero chance I die tonight but I'm still going to post my thoughts.
Being this wrong is probably the worst I have ever felt in a WW game. After this and 46 I feel like I'm not good enough for the big boy table but then after 47 I'm obviously too big for the kiddie table. Guess I just ruin games regardless. Anyway, I reread day 1 and I have some notes. Or rather had some notes, but my laptop ate them. So let's see how my memory is. CLEAR TOWN - Meiz, Gaspar, Jabbz, Gold Ergo Sum, WarriorKnight Meiz and Gaspar get this for being on Commodore day 1 and sticking on him all of day 2. Gaspar was also on Commodore's suspicion list. Meiz had to put up with my shit. Jabbz voted against Commodore early and often day 1 and then agin day 2. I guess some people were making a case that those votes felt a bit contrived and he could be scum? I didn't see it, but go ahead and put him as "mostly town" if you want; there are still better targets. Gold Ergo Sum was Commodore's favorite target day 2 and a target of his on day 1. I was suspicious of his style early day 1 but feel solid about him now. STRONG TOWN LEAN - WarriorKnight, Novice WarriorKnight being the alternative to Commodore on day 2 gives me a big town lean on him. And if Lewwyn is town as I fear he is now then that would all but clear WarriorKnight in my opinion. Noble cast a pivotal vote on day 2 to make sure Commodore swung but there's that end of day vote on day 1 where he votes for me. Anyway, Noble has come across as very town to me the more the day has gone on and I think he belongs in town camp. ON THE SURFACE TOWN, BUT I SUSPECT COULD BE SCUM - Rowain Notice I did not put Rowain in the first list despite him being an early proponent of the Commodore & Pind theory late day 1. I also noticed that he voted Q late in day 1 when things mattered. Then despite repeating the Commodore and Pind pair theory he started day 2 off on Kaiser. I think he could have been testing the water to see if it was possible to get someone other than Commodore lynched. I'm guessing part of the reasoning for pushing the Commo But he's smart enough not to stick his neck out too far. Also, I think it's interesting that Night 1 he's talking about lynching me ahead of lynching Commodore and then day 2 he starts with Commodore and doesn't really bring me up. The order of lynching has changed. I don't know, this could be town. I'm not sold on it. Something to come back to if you run out of other leads. PROBABLY THE SCUM THAT'S PLAYED ME FOR A SUCKER - Lewwyn I really don't want to put you here, Lewwyn. I saw exactly what you saw in Thrawn. I think the case for WarriorKnight was good at the time. But you look just as bad as I do after Commodore went. I think there's a good chance you've been finding good cases against lesser skilled players as a way to try and save Commodore; I didn't really see a case from you against Gaspar even though I had started making one. What made you want to vote Gaspar day 2 again? And why did you switch off AdrienIer after making a case on him? You pushed hard for WarriorKnight and Gaspar but not AdrienIer. WHO I WOULD LYNCH DAY 2 - AdrienIer Right now my theory for remaining scum team is AdrienIer, Rowain, Lewwyn. So naturally that can't be it with how I've been playing. But AdrienIer definitely looks the worst. On day 1 he was saying that he could lynch me over Commodore - but then when thrawn comes up late in the day he jumps ship over to thrawn without any explanation as to why his vote. He has been very low content this game. I see that WarriorKnight posted a big case against AdrienIer and the day 1 notes are similar to what I saw in my reread of the end of that day. And someone else noted his Gazglum comment night 1, which could be seen as contrived. Adding to WarriorKnight's list, AdrienIer also says here https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/show...#pid752982 that Lewwyn is a clear mislynch if thrawn turns town. So I could absolutely see AdrienIer as thinking thrawn is about to flip town with a post like this. TOWN BUT YOU PROBABLY HAVE TO LYNCH HIM ANYWAY - Pindicator. I'm sorry town, I have once again failed spectacularly in a big boy game. I know I was SK in 46 but my strategy was to FIND WOLVES and then after they were gone take over the night kill (we can talk about if that was a good strategy separately). I remember I used to be able to do this well enough and I don't know what happened. Anyway, I accept you have to lynch me at some point now. Probably the day after this. I recommend AdrienIer and Lewwyn ahead of me, and then after me I hope you look at Rowain, but I completely get it if I go ahead of them due to my defense of Commodore. I just did not see it on day 1 and I got stuck on repeating that the day 1 attacks looked so bad to me that I ignored his low level input in game 2. Any remaining names are in my neutral camp or I just have forgotten anything of note about them. Bob, Kaiser, Alhambram - I dont' have a good enough opinion on them to lean one way or the other. And I lost a lot of my notes when I tried to fix my wifi problem by reinstalling windows but forgot to back up everything first. (Speaking of which, I'm still figuring out how I'm going to reinstall Civ4. Might have to finally buy the Steam version.) Oh, Sunrise was sounding good to me day 2 but I wasn't paying too close attention. I hate that he is bringing up stuff I've already explained without regarding my explanation - maybe he hadn't gotten that far? Cyneheard ... didn't he have a decisive vote against Commodore day 2? Fake Edit: X-post with a lot
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October 6th, 2020, 10:53
(October 6th, 2020, 09:55)Lewwyn Wrote: And Meiz you're trying to make the circumstance fit. Imagine for a moment you were a hider and comm made that claim about not doing anything because he wasn't afraid of getting nightkilled? If you believed at that time that COmm might be innocent, what would you have done? If I had switched and voted for comm at that moment with 10 minutes left, what would you have said? YOU WOULD BE SAYING THE SAME GODDAMN THING. I must have planned it with Comm to give me cover to bus him because it was clear comm was going down. You've already convicted me in your mind Meiz, but everything I've done is based on my ignorance of everyone's roles not my knowledge of them. Lewwyn, whether you're town or scum this applies: Welcome to my world vis-a-vis Meiz.
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October 6th, 2020, 10:56
(October 6th, 2020, 10:40)Rowain Wrote:(October 6th, 2020, 10:37)sunrise089 Wrote: What is the advantage of responding now? How does the timing of the exchange benefit the town? Feel free to answer right at deadline. Pindicator then posts giant monologue immediately after. Say what you will about my scum hunting, my slapstick is on point
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Dodo Tier Player (October 6th, 2020, 10:48)pindicator Wrote: ON THE SURFACE TOWN, BUT I SUSPECT COULD BE SCUM So what is it now did I start with Kaiser or with Commodore  ? ( It was commodore btw.) Also you ignore my explanation post where I outline Commodore first and if he is town you look townier if he is scum you are most likely scum too.
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