The problem with this issue is that there will be no agreement unless someone turns up completely random and independent. Examples:
Spoiled Lurker - CoW unhappy as will have knowledge of this conflict and any 'isolation charter' will be rejected out of hand by Jowy and Athlete possibly threatening withdrawal. Worried about balance of war. Would work if agreed to diplomatic 'isolation' and agreement to sit out current war. But it seems Jowy in particular is completely unwilling to compromise on this front.
Atlantis event - Athlete and Whosit likely refuse as they plan to divvy up that territory once current war is over. Everyone else fine as nothing for them to gain and rivals lose out on land.
Kalin's 'friend' - No way in hell will Spulla accept that. They will definitely withdraw if that happens. Already annoyed about PB3 team including nearly all CoW and another 'friend' would tip them over the edge. Non-starter and as bad as spoiled lurker.
Only hope they have is to find a random 'unspoiled' lurker but I think that will be next to impossible, especially considering the massive following that Spulla have.
Other than that, the best thing for a balanced game and to get the game running again is to put a spoiled lurker in control with diplomatic and military isolation for an agreed upon number of turns.
Otherwise this game will dwindle because of the long wait for a miracle 'unspoilt lurker'.
If I may be so bold, I think that people holding things against someone for what happens in a previous game is pretty juvenile. The two key words are PREVIOUS and GAME. Its a game and if someone does something that they believe is their only or best chance to win then fair enough. If everyone played 'honourably' it would be a build-a-thon always peace game everytime. Every game needs its 'goodies and baddies' to make it interesting.
And to justify my Korea suggestion, I think that they can just go along and play with their NAPs and say bye to any chance of being a major force in the game and just live with mediocrity and have a long drawn out death. In my opinion, I would rather stake everything in such a situation as either great success to bring back balance (and revenge) or a quick death is preferable to a 'noble' but slow death.
I do understand that this is not everyone's cup of tea, but that's my opinion anyway.
Spoiled Lurker - CoW unhappy as will have knowledge of this conflict and any 'isolation charter' will be rejected out of hand by Jowy and Athlete possibly threatening withdrawal. Worried about balance of war. Would work if agreed to diplomatic 'isolation' and agreement to sit out current war. But it seems Jowy in particular is completely unwilling to compromise on this front.
Atlantis event - Athlete and Whosit likely refuse as they plan to divvy up that territory once current war is over. Everyone else fine as nothing for them to gain and rivals lose out on land.
Kalin's 'friend' - No way in hell will Spulla accept that. They will definitely withdraw if that happens. Already annoyed about PB3 team including nearly all CoW and another 'friend' would tip them over the edge. Non-starter and as bad as spoiled lurker.
Only hope they have is to find a random 'unspoiled' lurker but I think that will be next to impossible, especially considering the massive following that Spulla have.
Other than that, the best thing for a balanced game and to get the game running again is to put a spoiled lurker in control with diplomatic and military isolation for an agreed upon number of turns.
Otherwise this game will dwindle because of the long wait for a miracle 'unspoilt lurker'.
Rowain Wrote:Besides the fact that NAP-stabbing is not a good lan if you want to play (and be trusted in) future games here. Korea does not know how weak/strong Romes defense is. Besides their own military is not that powerfull either.
So they would tarnish their reputation and risk to lose again while gaining very little. Not to mention that their islands are close to Ottomans so I doubt that is wise to anger this neighbour.
If I may be so bold, I think that people holding things against someone for what happens in a previous game is pretty juvenile. The two key words are PREVIOUS and GAME. Its a game and if someone does something that they believe is their only or best chance to win then fair enough. If everyone played 'honourably' it would be a build-a-thon always peace game everytime. Every game needs its 'goodies and baddies' to make it interesting.
And to justify my Korea suggestion, I think that they can just go along and play with their NAPs and say bye to any chance of being a major force in the game and just live with mediocrity and have a long drawn out death. In my opinion, I would rather stake everything in such a situation as either great success to bring back balance (and revenge) or a quick death is preferable to a 'noble' but slow death.
I do understand that this is not everyone's cup of tea, but that's my opinion anyway.