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[LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire

So I wanted to lurk this super-badly, and therefore volunteered to make their map. I'm a bit nervous, though, given the field. If I leave in a major imbalance, they're all talented enough to take advantage.

Plus, honestly, cylindrical natural-looking but balanced is a high bar to clear even in an ancient game, let alone advanced start that hasn't been played here before.

So...anyone have any advice for me?

Here's my current thinking:

Size and script
Map needs to be a bit bigger than usual, because of the turbo-boosted start. Maybe 200 land tiles/person. I also want to aim for the smaller end of relevant water, so that there's a chance land units stay relevant. Maybe 20% water. I can't decide how dense hills should be in general. More hills shifts the balance away from knights and toward 1-movers.

I'm not sure what script will produce that result. Probably something like Lakes or Fractal?

Initial Starting Area
Starts absolutely must have hills available to found on, to keep rushes from being realistic. Need those longbow bonuses. Also must provide Iron and possibly horses? Do I want to make Knights easy to get? Is it more of an imbalance for knights to be easy, or for them to be hard and therefore non-universal?

Should I go for mirrored 7x7 starts? I tend to think yes, because I don't want the game to be determined on T0. The main downside is that is about a quarter of the total available tiles. Tricky to manage both that much mirroring and leave the overall map natural-looking.

Overall Land Shape
I think it's got to be a 3x2 offset grid. Lakes style is requested, so I don't have to do anything in particular except make sure the lakes connect/isolate everyone equally.

Resources
Most resources are already unlocked in this era. Free Forges make metals particularly valuable. I lean toward giving them mostly Calendar resources at the starts and making gold/silver/gems require more work. Maybe those will even be on islands?

I do need to make sure that all the strategics are common. Losing due to 'I didn't know I needed to settle there until it was too late' is infuriating, while the advantage of sparse strategics is mostly that they can be a target at the start of a war.

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Lushness
Probably going to end up on the lusher side of things. I feel like people have more fun racing for the prizes than trying to eke out a civ from a weak map, even if it does shift the relative value of traits and civs.

Other
Given that everyone starts with Iron Working, I'm tempted to include a lot of jungle, especially on borders, maybe also on a bunch of the happy resources. Delay interaction and growth curves a bit.
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[LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - August 5th, 2016, 14:56
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - September 3rd, 2016, 20:41
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - September 5th, 2016, 15:53
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - September 6th, 2016, 10:26
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - September 7th, 2016, 09:18
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Azoth - September 8th, 2016, 00:56
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - September 8th, 2016, 08:19
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - September 9th, 2016, 11:45
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - September 9th, 2016, 19:59
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - September 9th, 2016, 20:45
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - September 9th, 2016, 20:41
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - September 10th, 2016, 10:24
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - September 11th, 2016, 02:13
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - September 12th, 2016, 08:57
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Zalson - September 16th, 2016, 11:54
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - September 16th, 2016, 12:38
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - September 16th, 2016, 13:19
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - September 16th, 2016, 13:26
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - September 16th, 2016, 13:28
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - September 16th, 2016, 13:41
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - September 17th, 2016, 08:43
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - September 18th, 2016, 09:36
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - September 18th, 2016, 09:40
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - September 21st, 2016, 12:07
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Azoth - September 22nd, 2016, 13:24
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Gawdzak - September 22nd, 2016, 21:15
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - September 24th, 2016, 06:46
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - September 24th, 2016, 11:19
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - September 24th, 2016, 22:05
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - September 24th, 2016, 11:27
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - September 25th, 2016, 05:28
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Zalson - September 25th, 2016, 01:03
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - September 25th, 2016, 08:50
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Zalson - September 27th, 2016, 17:03
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - September 30th, 2016, 11:27
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - September 30th, 2016, 11:32
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Zalson - September 30th, 2016, 12:05
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - September 30th, 2016, 15:40
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - September 30th, 2016, 15:31
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Jkaen - October 11th, 2016, 10:17
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - October 17th, 2016, 10:45
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - October 17th, 2016, 23:16
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - October 17th, 2016, 15:01
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - October 18th, 2016, 17:40
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Jkaen - October 19th, 2016, 05:36
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Jkaen - October 19th, 2016, 07:44
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Jkaen - October 19th, 2016, 09:25
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - October 19th, 2016, 11:44
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Jkaen - October 21st, 2016, 08:09
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - October 21st, 2016, 13:29
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Elkad - October 24th, 2016, 08:22
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - October 24th, 2016, 09:31
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - October 26th, 2016, 16:39
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - October 31st, 2016, 00:23
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - October 31st, 2016, 12:28
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - October 31st, 2016, 23:14
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - November 7th, 2016, 09:57
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - November 9th, 2016, 00:27
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Zargon - November 11th, 2016, 16:39
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - November 11th, 2016, 18:12
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - November 11th, 2016, 18:20
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Thoth - November 11th, 2016, 18:25
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - November 12th, 2016, 01:39
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - November 15th, 2016, 14:00
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - November 15th, 2016, 17:08
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - November 15th, 2016, 18:07
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - November 16th, 2016, 02:30
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Sareln - November 15th, 2016, 19:37
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Sareln - November 16th, 2016, 02:16
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - November 16th, 2016, 15:07
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - November 16th, 2016, 00:29
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - November 16th, 2016, 10:49
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - November 16th, 2016, 13:24
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - November 16th, 2016, 14:11
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - November 16th, 2016, 14:29
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - November 16th, 2016, 15:17
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - November 16th, 2016, 16:57
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - November 16th, 2016, 17:16
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - November 16th, 2016, 17:29
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - November 16th, 2016, 17:36
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - November 24th, 2016, 08:39
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - November 24th, 2016, 11:30
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - November 25th, 2016, 10:50
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - November 27th, 2016, 05:54
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - December 9th, 2016, 13:55
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - December 10th, 2016, 04:50
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - December 10th, 2016, 05:19
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - December 12th, 2016, 11:26
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by OT4E - December 12th, 2016, 21:49
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Mardoc - December 13th, 2016, 16:38
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Bobchillingworth - December 13th, 2016, 16:47
RE: [LURKERS] Setting Up Tents for a Ren Faire - by Krill - December 13th, 2016, 17:56

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