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Poll: Quo vadis RtR
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I only want to play the original
6.67%
2 6.67%
RtR is going to far, I would love to play a balancing mod closer to BtS
26.67%
8 26.67%
The version in PB43, before the major naval and civ change, was perfect
10.00%
3 10.00%
I prefer a mix between versions in PB43 and PB46
10.00%
3 10.00%
I like the current version as played in PB46+
30.00%
9 30.00%
Somebody else should take over with further balancing RtR
13.33%
4 13.33%
Wait for Krill to finish/continue the mod
3.33%
1 3.33%
Total 30 vote(s) 100%
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Future of RtR

(April 24th, 2020, 11:18)Charriu Wrote:
(April 24th, 2020, 09:46)GeneralKilCavalry Wrote: It sounds like there's continual interest about the size of one pitboss group to play bts/close-to-bts games, and one that wants to play RtR, and of the larger group that wants to play RtR, they want to keep going further (basically, rewording Charriu slightly).

I believe making a mod that would counteract the need for such a strict point system (from pb44/51) would be beneficial to any new players whom we are attracting as well as facilitating more varied picks. I think one person on my discord actually did not join because of the distaste for the way the point system was set up for pb51.

Details of such a mod spoilered to avoid Charriu's ire wink

No ire here, as the discussion is more or less settled with Mardocs comment about Krill's profession. smile On the contrary I'm glad you brought this up.

Well, this is something I'm pondering about since new year and starting this discussion also had another more self-serving reason. I'm thinking about starting my own mod, which would be closer to BtS then RtR. It may not be a minimalist mod like Tides of War, but those changes I think about are closer to BtS. The goals I would set for this mod would be:

  1. Address common bans
  2. Balance stuff like India, Inca, War elephants etc.
  3. Keep the changes recognizable for BtS players to make it easier for new players, lurkers and players who want to play closer to BtS
  4. Try to buff things that are rarely used e.G. America, Germany, lumbermills, Serfdom among others
  5. BUG integration
Most important for those who like to play RtR. Both mods will use the same DLL. Most changes are already modular and that way I can still support Krill. I'll start a discussion about my ideas as soon as I prepared the final-until-Krill-is-back version of RtR.
Looking back at the development of RtR and Tides of War this also may be something good for RtR, as some changes in RtR originated from ToW.

Everything really depends on how far you want to go. I think its essential to really clearly delineate between KrillMod and a future CharriuMod in terms of philosophy, and make sure that a CharriuMod doesnt begin to spiral with more changes into an alternative KrillMod.
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Messages In This Thread
Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 16th, 2020, 01:24
RE: Future of RtR - by thestick - April 16th, 2020, 01:37
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 16th, 2020, 02:05
RE: Future of RtR - by yuris125 - April 16th, 2020, 05:20
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 16th, 2020, 06:06
RE: Future of RtR - by Cornflakes - April 16th, 2020, 06:50
RE: Future of RtR - by Rusten - April 16th, 2020, 07:28
RE: Future of RtR - by superdeath - April 16th, 2020, 08:13
RE: Future of RtR - by T-hawk - April 16th, 2020, 10:27
RE: Future of RtR - by mackoti - April 16th, 2020, 11:32
RE: Future of RtR - by SevenSpirits - April 23rd, 2020, 11:07
RE: Future of RtR - by GeneralKilCavalry - April 16th, 2020, 13:02
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 16th, 2020, 13:44
RE: Future of RtR - by TBW - April 16th, 2020, 18:04
RE: Future of RtR - by superdeath - April 16th, 2020, 18:06
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 20th, 2020, 03:33
RE: Future of RtR - by RefSteel - April 21st, 2020, 05:46
RE: Future of RtR - by Fintourist - April 20th, 2020, 18:26
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 21st, 2020, 01:06
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 21st, 2020, 06:30
RE: Future of RtR - by T-hawk - April 21st, 2020, 10:27
RE: Future of RtR - by RefSteel - April 23rd, 2020, 01:38
RE: Future of RtR - by Mardoc - April 21st, 2020, 12:21
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 23rd, 2020, 01:26
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 21st, 2020, 12:59
RE: Future of RtR - by JR4 - April 21st, 2020, 13:10
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 21st, 2020, 13:16
RE: Future of RtR - by JR4 - April 21st, 2020, 13:23
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 22nd, 2020, 03:22
RE: Future of RtR - by T-hawk - April 21st, 2020, 14:21
RE: Future of RtR - by GeneralKilCavalry - April 21st, 2020, 15:23
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 21st, 2020, 14:28
RE: Future of RtR - by JR4 - April 22nd, 2020, 10:54
RE: Future of RtR - by Elkad - April 23rd, 2020, 09:15
RE: Future of RtR - by Commodore - April 23rd, 2020, 10:10
RE: Future of RtR - by Gavagai - April 23rd, 2020, 12:45
RE: Future of RtR - by Fintourist - April 23rd, 2020, 14:05
RE: Future of RtR - by Commodore - April 23rd, 2020, 14:41
RE: Future of RtR - by Gavagai - April 23rd, 2020, 14:49
RE: Future of RtR - by Gavagai - April 23rd, 2020, 14:46
RE: Future of RtR - by Fintourist - April 23rd, 2020, 15:04
RE: Future of RtR - by Elkad - April 23rd, 2020, 15:06
RE: Future of RtR - by Hitru - April 24th, 2020, 00:37
RE: Future of RtR - by Gavagai - April 24th, 2020, 00:48
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 24th, 2020, 02:47
RE: Future of RtR - by GeneralKilCavalry - April 24th, 2020, 09:46
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 24th, 2020, 11:18
RE: Future of RtR - by GeneralKilCavalry - April 24th, 2020, 12:15
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 24th, 2020, 13:33
RE: Future of RtR - by GeneralKilCavalry - April 24th, 2020, 13:41
RE: Future of RtR - by El Grillo - April 24th, 2020, 11:30
RE: Future of RtR - by AutomatedTeller - April 24th, 2020, 12:27
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - April 24th, 2020, 14:06
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - May 6th, 2020, 15:36
RE: Future of RtR - by Old Harry - May 6th, 2020, 17:45
RE: Future of RtR - by Charriu - May 7th, 2020, 16:18

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