( No Players )[Lurker Thread] CIV VI PBEM19 Beginner

[Kaiser]

  TRAJAN 1 4000 BC.Civ6Save (Size: 459.27 KB / Downloads: 1)

Here is the save for Ioan to start with.

Name: PBEM19
Map size: Standard
Map type: PBEM19 (custom)
CS: 10 (no Nan Madol)
Mods: all with the exception of Ethiopia
Players: 5
Huts: no Huts

I'll be finishing my PBEM18 report and will then be out until later today, so please go ahead and post the save to Ioan when the rules discussions are finalized

[Cornflakes]

AH is a fine first tech for any start, and especially with the amount of flat grass/plains tiles at the start. Horses take a meh tile, add +2 base yield, and allow a pasture for another. AH will be needed anyway for deciding on a 2nd city location (again, horses are a strong yield tile plus the strategic resource). There is time to research any other necessary builder techs.

I strongly strongly believe that warrior first should be the default build, just as worker first is the default build in Civ 6. The utility of warriors vs barbarians is essential. Scouts require a warrior build before the settler (and risk delays to improvements if waiting until after builder). Slingers are ineffective at best, and useless at worst vs barbs.

[Kaiser]

If we end up on a Pangaea next to both Rome and Nubia, and they have nowhere else to go but to Persia or Zululand, we could definitely get attacked from both sides and crushed almost immediately.

Tough luck ljubljana, you have to play exactly that position


  TRAJAN 1 4000 BC.Civ6Save (Size: 447.35 KB / Downloads: 0)

Here is Ioan's save with Ethopia, Maya & Colombian and the two Persona mods deactivated.
Still no Nan-Madol, city states look completely different and Russia has 2 Military as the closest ones now, that might help with his defense.

Do not read PBEM18 players

I played a worker first opening in PBEM18 myself and would do it again. While I completely agree that you need a quick 2nd Warrior to defend against barbs, you also can control them somewhat with your first Warrior and lucky resource placement in defensible terrain/on one side.
You definietly need to sacrifice scouting though and need to keep your 1st Warrior close and ready to support your 2nd city site.

I even gambled there to get my first Settler and a 2nd Worker out before my 2nd Warrior if I remember correctly. Luckily I had no barb issues, even though I found quite close barb camps later.

I assume my play was similariy critized than thrawns idea is here, I would say it payed off in PBEM 18, at least in the beginning

[Kaiser]

Good think I checked the save before posting, it was accidentally on online speed. I created a new save and posted it in Ioan76'2 thread.

The CS switched completely, but still no Nan Madol. Now there are:
- 1 religious
- 1 commercial
- 4 cultural
- 4 military (iirc)

[Sullla]

Believe me, I am the last person to be tossing shade about investing excessive time into a Civilization Multiplayer game.



But even I can't recall ever placing 41 pins on the map on Turn 0.

[suboptimal]

I will never feel bad about doing a Turn 10 fantasy pinmap in one of my PBEMs ever again.

[Kaiser]

I did the same, without the pins though, in PBEM17 and PBEM18 to guess where to move my early Warriors. The pins might have helped being more consistent, but it looks excessive xD

[MJW (ya that one)]

Archduke already whining about turnpace. Would bet under if I could.

[suboptimal]

Ioan76 has had the turn over 24 hours. In the PBEM 18 setup he explicitly stated he wouldn't be playing on weekends. While I don't think he did that here his responsiveness in the org thread, especially around weekends, had been lacking. If he doesn't play until Sunday night/Monday morning his local time and it repeats next weekend I expect this game (or Ioan76) will be ending prior to Turn 50.

[Kaiser]

I hope he gets around as I really want to see how the map plays out