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Well, last night I was typing a paper up, so I didn't make it (I did tell Hawk about that). Anyways, I've been thinking more and more, and it might be better for us to limit the nudist team to just the Prophecies campaign, in both skill selection and exploration (i.e. not take the characters into the Factions world). I've been thinking more and more, and considering how long it's taking us just to go through Prophecies, I don't want to still be working on the same variant character when the next 3 expansions are released; there's just no way we'd be able to keep up with them. Limiting the current nudist variant to just Prophesies will in turn make it possible to try other variants out. I don't know how other people will feel about this, but I know my interest in the nudist idea has been steadily fading (my interest in anything PvE is going down a lot), and I think if we go beyond Prophecies I'll wind up dropping out. Didn't mean for that to be a downer, I just find it boring going up against an incredibly predictable and mediocre AI.
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I'd rather make that call when we get there, but if we figure out how to survive the Mursaat, I don't see how anything else can possibly seem challenging after that. Well of course maybe DNKP. 
Predictable monster AI? As primary healer I guess I'm never bored, with my team members trying to kill themselves in new and not always predictable ways. ![[Image: tongue.gif]](http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
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FoxBat Wrote:As primary healer I guess I'm never bored, with my team members trying to kill themselves in new and not always predictable ways.
ROFL!! 
You know that's why we do it, Fox - we wouldn't want you to get bored or complacent... 
Wyrm, you missed a pretty great session - we did the Divinity Coast mission and got the bonus as well, all without amassing -60% DP on any of us!! We are uber!! :2dance:
As for taking the Nudists past Prophecies, I'm with FoxBat - let's cross that bridge when we get to it. We may find it just too darn tedious to go further, or someone may have a great idea for a team variant that is specifically Factions-themed (which would be cool!).
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We have the 7 Samurai, how about the 7 Ninja? 
I'm sure there's some kind of oriental team theme we could come up with.
You know, since we just got past Meph, if we are really quick, we might be able to wrap up 7 Samurai in time for Factions to come out (or shortly thereafter) which will free up Sat/Sun/Mon night for a Guild Wars team variant...
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Zed-F Wrote:You know, since we just got past Meph, if we are really quick, we might be able to wrap up 7 Samurai in time for Factions to come out (or shortly thereafter) which will free up Sat/Sun/Mon night for a Guild Wars team variant...
Not sure who wants to have yet another character slot hamstrung to weekly use when some of us will have only 6. I sure won't.
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That's a good question, and a valid point. It could be possible to structure the event in a looser fashion so that characters of different clvls and experience levels can participate, and/or so that the characters involved are not solely confined to being played within the context of the team variant. It's just a matter of defining the rules and conditions appropriately...
For instance, to pick on the nudists as an example, without implying that's what we would do, I could suggest that the only things we would do as a nudist team would be missions (or even just mission bonuses!) and that anything else can be done on one's own time in one's own way. Maybe add a restriction (e.g. regarding skill usage, and/or requiring a certain amount of DP) for characters that run ahead of the rest of the group, but allow people the option to do so if they want.
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Fox mentioned the Mursaat, and he was thinking of using Protective Spirit against Spectral Agony, so I tested it out.
Spectral Agony is going to do 42 dmg x5 and give 13 degen to whom ever it hits for 5 seconds with only one infused piece of armor.
Protective spirit will work against the 42 dmg x5, but only if you have less than 420 health. I know, I tried it at -60 DP. With 188 hp, I was taking only 18 dmg from energy surge, wild blow, and spectral agony while PS was up.
I'll try to catch my nudist up...I just kinda got bored with it. The ninja thing sounds like fun though. An easy thing for that would to be to just kill your nudist (if you're done with nudist before you start the ninja one).
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Zed-F Wrote:It could be possible to structure the event in a looser fashion so that characters of different clvls and experience levels can participate, and/or so that the characters involved are not solely confined to being played within the context of the team variant. It's just a matter of defining the rules and conditions appropriately...
Something along those lines is easier to do once everyone is lvl 20 with 200 attribute points. Then progression really only opens up skills and maybe items, which are easier to restrict during team missions, unlike character level. A much larger portion of Faction's content is supposedly geared for these kinds of characters, so it might be possible to have a team start out at a point like that and progress together through the missions, yet also quest at their own leisure.
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Zed-F Wrote:We have the 7 Samurai, how about the 7 Ninja? Funny, I was thinking something similar. We could all be A/W with swordsmanship or something like that.
Quote:You know, since we just got past Meph, if we are really quick, we might be able to wrap up 7 Samurai in time for Factions to come out (or shortly thereafter) which will free up Sat/Sun/Mon night for a Guild Wars team variant...
I'd rather not start another variant until after nudist has played out. I'm going to have 6 slots: 4 for unlocking skills, a dedicated PvP slot (and also a slot to use for future preview events), and the variant slot. That's one of the main reasons I want to encourage limiting nudists to just Prophecies. If we go into factions and wind up doing that until the next game is released and just keep going, we're never going to finish. I've already decided on an Rt/A for Factions, simply because while I can see myself using an assassin in PvP on occasion, I don't see myself as a ritualist since they seem to be designed more for PvE play. If there's a variant for ritualists that someone can come up with (or one that uses already existing chars), I'll try it out.
Hawkmoon Wrote:Wyrm, you missed a pretty great session - we did the Divinity Coast mission and got the bonus as well Well, the semester is half over now, which means the amount of work I have is going to be steadily increasing. My play time during the week is probably going to dwindle into near-nothingness, not sure yet how that's going to affect my nudist participation.
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I think we're going to try to make the next variant one that doesn't require a character slot to be dedicated solely to the variant. I agree that given the limited number of character slots, that's a weakness of the current nudist variant design.
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