WW29: Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood

[zakalwe]

Being fair and anti-town is still anti-town and therefor a wolf tell.

Ok, then. In the future I will make sure to only strive for fairness when it benefits me.

[novice]

The person most deserving of my vote at the moment is Serdoa. His only contribution so far has been to accuse MJW of being behind a scum plot to get the village talking at night.

MJW is indeed classic lynchbait but plays to this as scum too. However, I do think his "I won't let meta clear me" post is unlikely to come from scum, ironically.

I want to see more from Lewwyn but I guess he's currently stuck behind the great firewall of China.

[Lewwyn]

Internet issues have been crazy since the tianamen terrorist thing.

[Goreripper]

The person most deserving of my vote at the moment is Serdoa. His only contribution so far has been to accuse MJW of being behind a scum plot to get the village talking at night.

MJW is indeed classic lynchbait but plays to this as scum too. However, I do think his "I won't let meta clear me" post is unlikely to come from scum, ironically.

I want to see more from Lewwyn but I guess he's currently stuck behind the great firewall of China.

Serdoa works. He seems to smart for bait.

[Lewwyn]

Not a revenge vote. But zakalwe for post 45 where he says he has to think about what Jkaen is saying.

[Lewwyn]

I'm a little tempted to vote for MJW, but apart from that, I'm not finding any of the "low hanging fruits" to be all that scummy yet. So I think I also need to hear more from the big guns, i.e. Novice, Meiz, Serdoa, and Lewwyn.

Lewwyn made a nice and funny opening post that didn't actually commit him to either side of the "night talking" debate.

Allow me to tell you where I stand on the night talking. For me it depends. I think talking aids scum. It lets them know who suspects who and who is going to be active in the game. What does the village gain? Nothing IMO. All we get is a jump on the discussion of the day cycle, but at the cost of seeing who is invested in the game.

The person who should have died last night if he were a villager should have been zak given that he was active and apparently trying to rouse the village to arms. Granted Scum could think he is being protected by the doctor. Rowain as a kill makes complete sense because during the night he revealed himself to be active open minded and very villagers IMO.

I am not trying to say we should lynch zak because he lived through the night. My suspicion of him rests entirely with zak saying he was interested in jkaen's theory and that he was going to think about it when in fact that theory was completely, completely ridiculous. Village zak would have shot it down. Scum zak doesn't want to hinder a Jkaen on MJW crusade. Village zak also knows that MJW is ridiculous and prone to the exact stream of conscious thought posts and meta posts that MJW made at the beginning of the game.

Additionly I do believe that zak was trying to get the village to talk in order to see what people were doing and who would be easy lynch bait. However, I am not resting my case against him on that because I can see why villagers would think that speaking at night would help.

[novice]

I am not trying to say we should lynch zak because he lived through the night. My suspicion of him rests entirely with zak saying he was interested in jkaen's theory and that he was going to think about it when in fact that theory was completely, completely ridiculous. Village zak would have shot it down. Scum zak doesn't want to hinder a Jkaen on MJW crusade. Village zak also knows that MJW is ridiculous and prone to the exact stream of conscious thought posts and meta posts that MJW made at the beginning of the game.

This is a good point. I would like to hear what the result of Zak's thinking was.

[Lewwyn]

Zakalwe chatting a lot at night gives him a town lean to me. He got killed very early last game so he seems like a town who wants to contribute fast before he dies this time.

Possibly. It's also possible he wanted to feel out the village for the right night kill.
Why are you in a rush to state this? And why is it in its own little post??

Rowain was the one questioning GoreRipper, and now he's dead. GoreRipper had a motive to kill Rowain first, and Rowain must have sensed it since he pointed his suspicions at GoreRipper just before the night ended. Looks quite bad for GoreRipper, obviously enchanced by the fact that Rowain called him out, but scum couldn't have known that Rowain would call both his death and his killer. I think this alone makes GoreRipper a better D1 lynch than any D1 lynch we've had in the games I've played here, so GoreRipper

Goreripper is def my #2 right now. I'm not sure I completely buy the Rowain angle because it could be a frame up, but his other posts have not been convincingly village.

[Lewwyn]

If not clear I was still going through the thread the last post, and now that I'm fully caught up it looks like I'm not alone in the zak and goreripper suspicions. Not sure what to make of that. On one hand it validates what I'm seeing, on the other it could be a scummy setup. Happily this is a small game and townies figuring things out day 1 has happened n the past. Even when zak and I were scum in an 11 player game zak was nearly lynched 3 days in a row. I do think scum is easier to find in a smaller game.

[novice]

Goreripper is def my #2 right now. I'm not sure I completely buy the Rowain angle because it could be a frame up, but his other posts have not been convincingly village.

Could you elaborate?