[SPOILERS] Lewger goes for the Bigwyn

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Lewwyn:



I don't like a cottage here. you only need one more worker turn to finish it, so you might as well, but don't cottage the tile to its right.

1. these 2 tiles are going to need to be turned into workshops immediately after we discover metal casting, for desperately needed production in the iliad
2. with the lack of growth potential in both cities, they aren't going to be worked anyway. the odyssey has other tiles that have cottages or partial cottages, and anyway can work the lake tiles. the aeneid I would rather work coast, tbh - and the plains riverside tile is a better location for a cottage

I recommend sending the 2nd worker to speed up the camping of furs (and then chopping), and cottaging the tiles around gilgamesh (the plains, and two riverside grassland spots we haven't completed a cottage in yet).

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picture dump:



barb harassing Popol:

note that a 2nd archer can be whipped to appear the turn the barb suicides itself, just in case it gets incredibly lucky (archer will have CG1, plus max fortify bonus, plus 50% from walls).

the galley can reach the borders here or dump on the aeneid. I think I favor dumping the axe on the sheep, then bringing the archer back west. not certain though.


barb harassing maths:

chariot just completed and has 72% odds unpromoted. I didn't promote, but I think if we give it shock we should easily kill the barb. if we lose the axe heading east can turn around, although likely it would just suicide on the archer at that point.

Scooter is just screwed:


well we made contact with commodore. I changed Odysseus to "Happy meal" and gifted it to Scooter, which should amuse him. even so looks like this city falls next turn .

this is commodore in trade:

he has currency and construction, but not alphabet.
4 happies, including the gems he's getting from azza .
you can't see in this screen, but he has 9 cities for trade + capital . yuck.


confirmed commodore is giving azza horses.


whipped the library in volsung. we can quickly grow it up to happy cap and then work 2 scientists now.

GNP, lasst turn at max tax:

shrine added 12 GNP at max science, 17 at max tax. woohoo .

I thought I took a picture of the iliad, but it didn't take. As I said we're getting +7 gold from the shrine, so some other civ out there has a Jew city.

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Wish you hadn't gifted that chariot... We could have moved on the hill SW of the city, then moved through Commodores army declared war on his doorstep and tried to snipe a worker or something. Giving it to scooter was a wasted opportunity I think...

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didnt really understand that either - scooter is out of the game - not like it buys you future diplo consideration. Not sure i would go poking Commo with a stick either

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didnt really understand that either - scooter is out of the game - not like it buys you future diplo consideration. Not sure i would go poking Commo with a stick either

thats why I gifted it, we can send the chariot to war w/ commodore w/o declaring ourselves.

lewwyn we've talked about gifting it for 10-15 turns now and this is the first I've heard of any alternative plan. not sure I would have liked that plan anyway, tbh.

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no words, just pictures. draw your own conclusions:













wahh

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lewwyns freaking out about a stack of elephants and cats marching on us. I think we'll be ok if we are smart.

azza's GNP and MFG are both well below us. we'll land currency just about the same time he gets construction. he'll then need some time to build up cats and elephants, his MFG isn't too good and his cities are whipped down, except for his capital.

in the mean time we build something like 20% axes, 30% spears, 50% HA's. or maybe 30/30/40. capture barb city. after currency we get construction - won't take too long with lots of known civ bonuses and a high gnp once we get extra currency routes. then we build plenty of cats ourself, for defense. azza will be at a culture disadvantage if he invades, and we can hit him first with cats.

we can stack most of our troops in the odyssey and whip walls if he goes after the aeneid. (for stalling).


hold onto what we have, expand where we can, then go something like --- Monarchy>Metalcasting(double revolt)>COL>civil service(double revolt)> machinery. maces will shut him down, so . maths at that point can build more farms and 1-0-3 workshops and probably 1 turn just about any military unit.

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welll Serdoa was a dick, DOW, killed our scouting chariot before we could reach xenu, then offered peace. Lewwyn accepted. oh well, 10 more turns that popol is safe. I'm really curious if he did the same thing to azza, who was about to contact xenu as well w/ a chariot, or if he let azza by. lost scouting so prob won't know until I read their spoiler threads .

lewwyns gonna finish the turn and let it roll, then I'll grab the next turn and take pictjures. expect pictures in a few hours.

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azza cancelled his gems for horses deal with commodore. I assume it was azza, no reason for commodore to need 2 horses. so he wants the happy and is gearing up for producing elephants, but that does mean he won't be cranking out units to attack us out of the gate.

EDIT: NEVERMIND. Azza is giving gold to scooter, haha. I guess he realized commodore was becoming a serious threat and he should stop helping commodore . so he's at the same happy as before, just no horses .

next turn we finish our second source of furs. what do with it? Ideas:
-just give it to scooter upside: help scooter hold on as long as possible downside: he's dead soon anyway, and probably piss off commodore. no gain for us
-trade with commodore, something like furs +1 or +2 gold for elephants upside: immediate one happy, can produce elephants once we get construction downside: help commodore even more
-hang onto it, make similar trade for bricks whale once we get currency upside: happy, I don't mind helping brick with the extra money, don't help a leader downside: have to wait for currency (commodore has it, brick doesnt)

we can get a third source in 5-6 turns, so we can do both of the last 2 if we wished

I want input from waterbat and Harry, so I know you haven't given up on us

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Gilgamesh:


unfortunately we badly need that temple AND badly need units .

maths:


needs 1 more happy for size 8, where we'll cap until we get civil service

The Iliad (at 15 whip unhappy):


Popol Voh:

we now have turns of enforced peace w/ serdoa and are running out of things to do w/ our workers, why not bring 2 over?

volsung:

ok we're growing it a bit for coast commerce, then we'll work the scientists.


commodore and azza have currency, brick and serdoa don't

top 5:

we need happy *so* badly.

power graph:


ill probably post this every turn, just to keep an eye on azza

demos:


we're building cottages just about everywhere. gnp will look even better when we get currency and figure out how to get 2 +2 routes in every city. we're only gonna get them in gilgamesh now, for the 1 route we have from scooter .