[SPOILERS] Lewger goes for the Bigwyn

[waterbat]

Still here. I sent back and forth, but I think I'd garden then furs to commo. You really only have 1 opponent to worry about right now. I'M of the mind if you can't eat Azza, you won't win. The fur for a happy trade helps you get extra hammers ( or extra whip hammers ) in Gilgamesh, etc. That helps you vs the first hurdle (azza)

[waterbat]

Garden those furs!

[Old Harry]

I'm with waterbat, unless you can get happy from somewhere else?

And didn't Azza declare on serdoa, not the other way around? Is it possible to check the logs?

I haven't got time to be useful at the moment, but with you all the way!

[Bigger]

I'm with waterbat, unless you can get happy from somewhere else?

And didn't Azza declare on serdoa, not the other way around? Is it possible to check the logs?

I haven't got time to be useful at the moment, but with you all the way!

yes. nothing in the logs so that means no war, I geuss azza let him through :/. to be fair, economically speaking we're much bigger competition to serdoa than azza, and we did just pilfer a city from him.

yeah I see your points. lets offer 1gpt to commodore for ivory and see what he counters.

btw, its not just the happy - we'll have currency in ~7 turns and probably construction 5-6 turns after that. elephants to counter azza's elephants will be very useful.

then we can use the third fur to make a similar trade for brick's whale, since we should have currency by the time we get it connected.

unless someone else gets a duplicate resource we won't have to pay for.

[Bigger]

ok, this is interesting:

I ended turn...thank Krill for his persuasion.

Now on to my rant...
Sequential turns DOESN'T REQUIRE double movement rules. In fact, they are counter productive...by the house rules, I already got notified I would be attacked (by PM). So f****** stupid. It is IMPOSSIBLE to double move with sequential turns.Seriously, this rule has no place in a sequential turn game. Just my opinion ofc but I didn't get to Deity without knowing the rules of the game. Wtf, "you have to end the turn cause I'm going to attack and I don't want to double move"...really, stupid rule with no purpose.

The rules are what they are (this game anyway) but a re-visit of the sequential game rules would be welcome. The double move rule should be axed imo (because it makes no sense).

so this is scooter attacking cfcjester. I thought they were going to fort and hit commodore on their backlines. sucks they won't F up commodore, but also kinda makes sense - commodore won't have too much trouble redistributing his army to the north to repel, but cfcjester probably doesnt have much of an army at all. maybe scooter will conquer a few cities and be able to live . I hope so, we can always use extra foreign trade routes after currency .

maybe scooter can capture the great lighthouse and start to become mediocore instead of terrible. props to them for finding something interesting to do isntead of just dying off.

ill grab the turn shortly since lewwyn didn't play it. probably before pindicator can play anyway.

[Bigger]

ok, I don't really understand the demos sometimes. when the turn rolled, our gnp was 139. I logged in after Brick had played (no one else had logged in) and our GNP is now 141.

we are researching currency before and after his log in, and he hasn't discovered it yet. What could Brick have done that would increase our GNP (we don't have OB with him)?

[Bigger]

opened the turn to see this:



we accepted, and now know where plako and merohoc are:


merohoc is doing better than I thought they were. now we're only missing Slowcheetah, whose probably on an island by himself east of CFCjester.

commodore's new empire:


in our effort to prop up Brick and make a friend, we shared our new map info:


thats why I logged in after Brick. Brick's map didn't reveal anything new to us, though.

Lewwyn wanted to see if commodore would accept an even treade for ivory, so I offered him this:


spoiler alert: he's already declined the deal. So we finish currency in 5 turns with 22 cash left over, so we'll have to research construction at 50%. I'll offer him a 1gpt + furs trade then, and since we'll have a small cash surplus he can possibly counter offer too. that'll be closer to war elephants too.

azza has a new city:

yeah, ok. gonna tkae him awhile to get borders popped. he can work horses and stone and stay at size 2 forever. once he pops borders he can build a farm in the south but I'm not sure he'll want to risk a farm north of the horses, so close to our territory.

I do wish we had founded the sheep/horse city already. probably not worth the headache now, though.

gilgamesh, before the turn rolled:


math enhanced chop comes in this turn. the spear will complete and almost enough to finish the temple, too, I think.

north of popol:

well, we'll see how heavily defended the barb city is soon.

demos before the roll, we briefly regained #1 GNP:


demos at start of the new turn:



most recent power graph:


nothing dangerous from azza yet.

[Bigger]

I want to get this city settled as soon as possible:


gold will be tremendous, and production decent for a second hammer/unit city. we can build 2 farms before civil service, then work the gold mine and plains mine even w/o sharing the pigs (a few turns on the pigs will help us grow quicker). and several forests to chop out a granary and barracks.

[Old Harry]

Eh? I don't get cfcjester's rant at all, if he really meant simultaneous it makes even less sense - wish we could find out what's happened...

On the gnp, maybe our known tech bonus changed somehow? Or brick did something that re-calculated trade routes with pindicooter?

[Old Harry]

Or brick used a Jewish missionary? That doesn't make sense either...