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WW48: Melllvar's Grand Competition!

I'm currently torn between Lewwyn and Meiz, but there is a decent chance I will miss EOD tomorrow (17 y/o daughter finally getting her braces off after 2.5 years!!!). Since I might not be given a chance to come off lewwyn, I'll go on record as being comfortable with him being scum, so there is a good chance I would keep my vote there anyway.
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And for the record (and I know I now become the Fozzie Bear for WK) IMO we should lynch pindi today.

pindi = scum -> lynch Lewwyn
pindi = town -> what to do with Lewwyn? His attack vs Q was then saving townie pindi. I also start to suspect that C's move then was to paint Lewwyn in a bad light and get rid of him via lynch.

Lewwyn scum -> lynch pindi
Lewwyn town -> what to do with pindi? His play is scummy C voting Q instead of p is also marking him scum so we need to lynch pindi anyway.

Yes I know that Lewwyn's day 2 looks bad but that is a thing that can happen and has happened to village Lewwyn before. No I'm not sold in the least on the 2 cases he brought forth today.
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(October 8th, 2020, 04:20)Rowain Wrote: WK: your posts and gifs will be sorely missed.

Can you please continue to make them in the Lurkerthread once your ghosts have moved on. Thanks in advance smile

Oh, don't worry about that. There's still a few I'm saving for the lurker thread.  dancing

(October 8th, 2020, 04:34)Jabbz Wrote: I'm currently torn between Lewwyn and Meiz, but there is a decent chance I will miss EOD tomorrow (17 y/o daughter finally getting her braces off after 2.5 years!!!). Since I might not be given a chance to come off lewwyn, I'll go on record as being comfortable with him being scum, so there is a good chance I would keep my vote there anyway.

I'm not sure why you are suspicious of Meiz tbh. Meiz is, in my opinion, the most confirmed town player in the entire game right now (aside from myself of course, can't top GM approval).

Do you suspect him because he suspected you? It is natural to suspect everyone in this game. I think Meiz reasons for suspecting you are justified (focusing on power roles too much instead of scumhunting is a wolf thing to do, being afk a lot naturally was a null read while others have been doing stuff to make them less suspicious etc.). This doesn't mean you are scum of course, but he is just following your actions and making suspicions of everyone. That said, I am positive you are not in his top 3 suspects right now (that would belong to Lewwyn, pindicator and Gaspar).

(October 8th, 2020, 04:44)Rowain Wrote: And for the record (and I know I now become the Fozzie Bear for WK) IMO we should lynch pindi today.

pindi = scum -> lynch Lewwyn
pindi = town -> what to do with Lewwyn? His attack vs Q was then saving townie pindi. I also start to suspect that C's move then was to paint Lewwyn in a bad light and get rid of him via lynch.

Lewwyn scum -> lynch pindi
Lewwyn town -> what to do with pindi? His play is scummy C voting Q instead of p is also marking him scum so we need to lynch pindi anyway.

Yes I know that Lewwyn's day 2 looks bad but that is a thing that can happen and has happened to village Lewwyn before. No I'm not sold in the least on the 2 cases he brought forth today.

I was going to save this argument for my final post of the day (except for my 1 death post as per rule 10, already have something for that), but I'll give it now:

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that Lewwyn is town this game. I still think Lewwyn should be lynched today, his continued hammering on players and screaming at everyone prevents others from forming their own opinions, which is very anti-town play. If a mislynch were inevitable, Lewwyn would still be the best player to go for. I will have no regrets leaving the game at the end of the day alongside Lewwyn today regardless of his actual alignment (although obviously prefer Lewwyn flip scum, and I am absolutely positive he will considering everything that is doing right now).
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Good morning everyone,

Sorry, I need to step away from this.

I was about to write a post about where things are, and then one of my friends just told me that he lost both his niece and his father-in-law in the past 36 hours, and I just can't focus on this game right now at all.

Brick, I'm not sure how you want to handle this.
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(October 8th, 2020, 05:23)Cyneheard Wrote: Good morning everyone,

Sorry, I need to step away from this.

I was about to write a post about where things are, and then one of my friends just told me that he lost both his niece and his father-in-law in the past 36 hours, and I just can't focus on this game right now at all.

Brick, I'm not sure how you want to handle this.

Sincere Condolences to your friend. Be there for him.

Hope to see see you again in a future game.
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(October 8th, 2020, 05:38)Rowain Wrote: Sincere Condolences to your friend. Be there for him.

Hope to see see you again in a future game.

Well said. Thanks for playing, Cyneheard.
I have to run.
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(October 8th, 2020, 03:04)Meiz Wrote: Why I think you are scum.

- You've sitted on sidelines today, not being eager to throw Lewwyn under a bus, because you would feel bad about it.
- I suspect the original post (quoted in the beginning) is a baiting attempt, see if there's a possibility to direct lynch towards Cyneheard today. Your accusation against Cyneheard (https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/show...#pid754272) was very much of turning anything he says in bad light and as a clear scum sign.
- I am certain town-Gaspar would see through Lewwyn's play today and also comment on it more actively, instead of brushing it off as Lewwyn's play feeling like normal Lewwyn play (https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/show...#pid754523)
- No comments on any of the points others have posted regarding Lewwyn-damning things (fishy role claim amogn others).

I don't think its accurate that I sat on the sidelines. I knew the day would break on pindicator/Lewwyn and so I wanted to explore another case so that there was a little more value in the day. That didn't really go anywhere (sorry for your troubles, Cyneheard) but I thought it was worth trying. I knew all along that the overwhelming likelihood was that I would end up on Weeb Fox. I honestly did not think there was any chance we'd end up lynching Cyneheard, but rather thought it worth exploring the case. I absolutely stand by my reads of his posts - they felt low-effort and scummy. Now I would guess due to meta reasons that he is town (probably this conversation about his RL would happen in the scum thread if he were scum) but that doesn't change the value in exploring the case.

I also don't feel the need to hammer WF anymore because I'm sure he's going down. If he were slipping off the block, I'd reassess. My vote is there. I explained the places I found him scummy. I made some of the first accusations of it (you and I were the ones calling out his post-lynch behavior on N1 and I thought his play at EOD2 was pretty slimy as well. This isn't a cult where anyone who falls slightly out of line is the enemy - we're all trying to solve the same problem here.
I've got some dirt on my shoulder, can you brush it off for me?
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Oh by the way it would be nice if people refrained from lines of questioning along the lines of "but doesn't your role PM say this and that?". Just don't discuss GM communication. (Sorry Mattimeo!)
I have to run.
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(October 8th, 2020, 05:23)Cyneheard Wrote: Good morning everyone,

Sorry, I need to step away from this.

I was about to write a post about where things are, and then one of my friends just told me that he lost both his niece and his father-in-law in the past 36 hours, and I just can't focus on this game right now at all.

Brick, I'm not sure how you want to handle this.

Cyneheard has confirmed to me that he intends to step away from the game due to this, and I will honor his request. Due to this happening with about 3 hours to go in the game day, I have been carefully thinking on how to most fairly handle this for all players, hero and villain.

Therefore, Cyneheard will be removed from the game at the conclusion of Day 3. If he has the most votes then he will be the only one eliminated, if he does not have the most votes, he will be eliminated in addition to the top vote getter.

As always, PM me with any questions or concerns.
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Also, as he is removing himself from the game, I will remove him from the vote tally.

Tally as of post 1271:

Lynch votes
6 votes: Lewwyn/Retsuko (Meiz, Gold Ergo Sum, novice, Jabbz, Alhambram, Gaspar)
3 votes: pindicator/Henchman 21/Gary (Bobchillingworth, sunrise089, Rowain)
2 votes: Cyneheard/Elim Garak (pindicator, Lewwyn)
1 votes: Rowain/Uncle Iroh (Kaiser)

Voting history:
Cyneheard Wrote: Retsuko
novice Wrote: Uncle Iroh
Meiz Wrote: Retsuko
Gaspar Wrote: Elim Garak
novice Wrote: Elim Garak
pindicator Wrote: Elim Garak
Bobchillingworth Wrote: * Kaiser (claimed Understudy)
Bobchillingworth Wrote: Isaac
Bobchillingworth Wrote: * pindicator
Bobchillingworth Wrote: * Commodore (known Roleblocker)
Bobchillingworth Wrote: * Lewwyn (claimed Hider)
Bobchillingworth Wrote: * Cyneheard
Bobchillingworth Wrote: Pindicator:Lewwyn:and Cyneheard
Bobchillingworth Wrote: Henchman 21
Alhambram Wrote: Elim Garak
Gold Ergo Sum Wrote: Retsuko
Lewwyn Wrote: Henchman 21
sunrise089 Wrote: Henchman 21
novice Wrote: Retsuko
Rowain Wrote: Henchman 21
Kaiser Wrote: Uncle Iroh
Lewwyn Wrote: Elim Garak
Jabbz Wrote: Retsuko
Alhambram Wrote: Retsuko
Gaspar Wrote: Retsuko

3 Hours and 10 minutes remain.
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