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[PB61 spoilers] vanrober lonely in a green field

somehow i messed up so bad and didnt see bellarch got SH last turn. I could have taken it, but not worth, i dont need it us much.

Right now i see that Jesse seeing my tech might be a bit annoying, he could try to get Hinduism or Oracle somehow, although he is already crimped on expansion, if he does he will be digging his grave. I thought to change next turn EP into him to try to deny his tech visibility, although he decided to fuk me over rome already, since he knows them but didnt put EP into them, crazy.

Also Bing asked me to declare war on rekenner so i guess he is not going really good. I moved my scout risking it again and maybe im tepting too much rekenner, in any case he has at least 3 chariots there that i can see. If he has not the second city with copper he is done, he might be defending witha rchers? If he dies this early rekenner will be the NobleHelium of PB56, completely unstopable. I hope he is not as skilled and the lack of eco trait make him get into bankrupcy.
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Turn 52

Settled my 4th city, called Daisy.

Bellarch has an scout right next to me and a barb warrior that needs to decide who is the unlucky guy. My scout has a bit less of odds since it has 0,8 of HP instead of 1. 

   

Jesse started putting EP to other guys, so thats nice, im putting EPs into him since if i plan any kind of HA rus over turn 90sh i would need him not see what im teching, so ill put EP until he lose tech visibility. Hopefully i can put some EP to other guys too soonish. Right now i have graphs of Josh, and he is doing really nice, he settled his forth city on the same turn i did. He probably builded some granaries as i did, since i learnt it from Amica on PB60, so i guess Amica is telling him to do so too, i took his KTB of pottery for a couple of turns, so since they took the tech before me, i expect them to get a couple or 3 granaries already. I could probably have more granaries but im focusing on workers and getting mids before t80. In all my sims i also get oracle before i get writting and i have to delay it for writting to come, thats a bit risky, but i dont expect much competence, unless someone discover hindu before i do.



I really hope Bing can hold rekenner. If rekenner get profit from that war he will be the clear favourite to win. And i would be forced to get gain agains a PRO Jesse, and that seems risky.

This turn i got 4 KTB for AH, i hope i dont destroy any horse spot with a city. 

Demos arent as bad, next turn food will rise on 2 and on 3 turns it will increase in 5. Im still going decent on GNP without any culture while Bellarch and Rekenner have tons of culture.

       

On the micro, in case you want to know more, Lily is making 2 warriors 1 turn each one for itself and the other for the capitol, also to rise a bit soldiers stat. After that will make a settler for the 5th city that will be whiped into an axe and then oracle. Daisy and Violet are making granaries to grow lvl 2 where botha re getting workers out. Capitol is growing back to 4 on a spear (actually a warrior but will become spear once copper is connected) then it will 2 whip a worker into the spear into the mids, once the 5th city is online giving me stone instantly. Then working as many hammers as possible in that city, i need to figure ho to get the mids faster since i dont like much the date of acomplish yet.
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Josh either forgot to change Eps or he is tryign to get my tech vision too... A bit too annoying. Also, It seems the dice roll was for my scout and he died. Sad, i really wanted to get ktb of Jack. I have another scout over Bell, but he is being really annoying moving a qechua trying to kill my lovely scout. I dont want to lose it, but there is a barb in the other way, so im not sure what to do with it.
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Turn 55

Jesse somehow is trying to be annoying again, i will try not to change micro, i have several warriors that can be suicided for the archer in case he try to take the city or the copper. Next turn copper will be connected, if he go agresive ill whip an axe, im last on power so it might make sense, but just with one archer is completely dumb i would say.

In 2 turns il lget politheism, i feel fine with the tempo since Bellarch took SH he probably doesnt want religion for culture, and the rest shouldnt have mist. But Jessy do have it and Bing too, so maybe Jessy could snipe it, he knows i was trying to get it. Idk.

Anyway, demos are back, first on food again and next turn my capitol is size 4 again. In 2 turns Daisy will be 2 pop, so again it might improve a bit. In 2 turns ill whip another settler and will drop again, but thats the way to make the food lead work, i think.

           

My scout is trying to find Jack, with no luck for now, lets see if i find him for the last KTB
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Turn 56

I really hate this feeling. Why this horde of barbs are coming for me???????? REally. Just got copper, im a bit afraid not making the axe on time. Ill one whip it in 2 turns, and its really important to know if i need to 2whip it from capitol on this turn. So i need you guys answer one question if you know the answer.

Do barbs move before my building take place? So if i whip an axe and thenm barb move to copper i get the axe or i just lose all the production??

3 warriors and a spear are coming.

   
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As far as I know they move first in the turn, therefore you get your axe. But would wait for others to confirm this too.
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Ill simmed and i think the way to destroy the less possible my micro is to 1 whip that axe in Daisy. I ll risk losing the copper though, if the stack of warrior spear both go to the copper i might not be able to save it. Dependeing on the amount of warriors i have to suicide to kill the first warrior inc ase it go to the copper. Ill have 4 warriors there. I just hope Odds doesnt kill me like on PB52.

Demos looks nice and hindu is coming next turn. If this barb atack doesnt slow me i feel nice about my possition.

   
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Turn 57
2:23 here, i was at bed writtng with amica about turn of PB60, then i went to get a shower since Spanish heat is melting me, and when i was at bed i said, hey how is PB61? and i was left with Jesse, i didnt want to be the last xD.

Lovely turn, i got hindu as i thought and converted to it, no one should go for this this early, but my mission is to get Oracle fast enough, hopefully im the only one that wants that. Maybe Bellarch had the same thought since he is a civ with Mist too, and Mjmd likes Oracle. I hope i get some free spreads to get a bit more happy since im not getting the silver online soon. I expect that as 7 or 8th city actually. I valuated gold really high on PB59 since we were on emperor and huge, and the cost and needs for gold were pretty high, but now on a standard and monarch game, i feel i value food much better, and silver spot has a damn clams.

The spear and warrior stack moved away but ill whip the axe in any case, my micro plan was making a worker on that city once it had 2 pop, but then this happened an i felt i should react. That worker would help with mids, so i might be a bit slower on those, although i might make another worker in the 5th city to compensate, or actually i make OF from a worker on Lily before the Oracle. Ill need to sim it out.

On this turn i whiped the settler for the 5th city, although it has been whiped already and we have not a huge happy cap yet, maybe if i get a free spread. The plan for Lily is making another axe out of OF waiting for Priesthood to come online, if my maths are correct i should get there in 4 turns. Hopefully some neighbours are giving me KTB for Writting after those 4 turns and speed a bit more my oracle.

Somehow i am still the first on food after whiping Lily, so lets keep whiping.

   
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Turn 58

Someone took sailing, 3 turns ago more or less, Jesse took sailing, and this turn another one has it.

On 2 turns ill get another city, and will start mids, imr eally down on power, and im making some units, on 2 turn a spear and axe and next turn another axe. Right now my power is crap and im afraid there is something coming, jesse has an archer around still, and he is killing the barbs that were threating me before so im fine with that, ill chop the forest north of Daisy so that if any atack is coming i can atack from the city and also to speed up a bit more the granary, in my first micro that forest was for another worker, but it seems im the only one playing this gambit. And i dont like to be this behind. Right now ive whiped 1 city for turn this last 3 turns, and demos are still decent.

   

Bing keeps sending me war with rekenner which have sense if he is losing, but right now i have not real way to fight rekenner with his huge power and im afraid falling behind to defend Bing, so im gonna ignore and pray for his survival. Its ture that his huge power probably means hes power is on the other side, but if he peace out and come for me afterwards i cant defend. My traits are for late game and i think i have to play that way.

Im a bit afraid of being the first one to priesthood adn then not seeing someone taking it the same turn or the turn after that gets the oracle instead of me, im going to invest a lot of resources for it, and losing oracle would be big i think. Not sure if putting some turns into writting before so that i can see if there is any other competitor for oracle and also getting it faster with some whips and chops afterwards, i would need to sim that but with my moving im lacking time. Also right now i have no internet since the internet company is stupid and took it off me when i said i wanted to leave it the 31. And they are providing me no solution. So im playing with my phone's conection right now, which is not as bad, but the C conector has some false contacts and sometimes it disconects.

So im going to fall a bit into this post. Im sorry lurkers. I hope i get to normality after 31. I might need some extensions this weekend if everything goes wrong. Ill make you know.
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Which tech do you want from the Oracle?
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