October 12th, 2021, 08:08
(This post was last modified: October 12th, 2021, 08:09 by vanrober.)
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In my sims i chop the forest of 1N2W and the one 1N of the capitol, that way we settle on top of the copper turn 29. With 2 workers so that the city is connected when settling.
Really i think thats the best defensive option. But, is he really trying to rush us? Lets see how many turns he would need to do so. We are turn 15. He finished hunting turn 11 i believe, so finishing archery would mean turn 19 more or less. He has no choping for his workers so making his first skirmish would be something like turn 22-24 he needs 6 turns to come to us, i think we can hold and gambit a bit without a second warrior... We could chop another forset for a couple of warriors before he gets to us i think, then whip an axe and everything is over? How do you see that?
Im of course considering he has more or less our gold income, so 10 beakers per turn, and its 97 raw beakers, we have 2 ktb for wheel and he wont have for Archery....
In my sims there is animals around our copper so moving there the warrior has been more usefull for me, but i didnt move the scout so maybe moving the scout fogboost enough? not sure.
The thing is that makign the second warrior makes the settling on copper turn 30 instead of turn 29, and that turn might be important? What if we move around turn 19 the scout over mjmd?
btw mjmd being 2 h in game might mean something?
October 12th, 2021, 14:53
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Decided to move the warrior towards mjmd just in case. I want to believe it will be fine to fogboost with the scout. In the worst case we can delay one turn to make the warrior.
Right now Mjmd is still at 1 pop, so we shouldnt expect a huge gold income rushing archery yet, and also not much production yet. So i think we are fine.
We found Bing.
I think going next turn towards SW should be fine. to get vision for the copper spot. I think that corn should be more juicy to mjmd than to get the floodplains for a second city i would say. I expect his next city over there.
Demos are really nice for now, sadly we are CRE so GNP is a bit cheating.
October 12th, 2021, 17:13
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nobody else is Cre, right? So how does somebody have 3 commerce more than us at size 2? Seafood + lake + 2c city tile? Curious, or maybe I'm missing the obvious.
I don't see how Mjmd would settle 2nd for than corn, that's really far away for him (it might pass for Cre, although I wouldn't like it for myself, but he isn't).
Anyway, you are right that the FP between our capitals would be quite a bad 2nd city plant, with no food besides the FP, which take a long time to set up.
Do we have Mjmd's graphs yet? Power might show a new skirmisher appearing.
October 12th, 2021, 17:15
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(October 12th, 2021, 17:13)Miguelito Wrote: nobody else is Cre, right? So how does somebody have 3 commerce more than us at size 2? Seafood + lake + 2c city tile? Curious, or maybe I'm missing the obvious.
I don't see how Mjmd would settle 2nd for than corn, that's really far away for him (it might pass for Cre, although I wouldn't like it for myself, but he isn't).
Anyway, you are right that the FP between our capitals would be quite a bad 2nd city plant, with no food besides the FP, which take a long time to set up.
Do we have Mjmd's graphs yet? Power might show a new skirmisher appearing.
Yes, nau is CRE and Netherlands, so i guess he is in coast
We have 16 EPs on Mjmd, and he has 22 on us, so i guess we will need to go to 44Eps, which would be 7 turns
October 13th, 2021, 11:50
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Not much to say this turn. Mjmd still 1 pop, so i think if he is trying to get the rush it will be slow.
This is the new vision, and the warrior arrived to the hill to see any agresion fast
I think the plant in the PH of 3 W is better than in top of the copper and if he is not going for the rush we should have time enough for the copper. Is that too greedy?
October 13th, 2021, 12:59
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(October 13th, 2021, 11:50)vanrober Wrote: Not much to say this turn. Mjmd still 1 pop, so i think if he is trying to get the rush it will be slow. That is quite weird, but I agree that it doesn't look like he's preparing to skirm rush us.
(October 13th, 2021, 11:50)vanrober Wrote: This is the new vision, and the warrior arrived to the hill to see any agresion fast I'm a bit wary of him going through the western forests where we'd miss him. Has he seen our wheat? Because then that route is not unlikely. But maybe the gold hill is still the best compromise.
(October 13th, 2021, 11:50)vanrober Wrote: I think the plant in the PH of 3 W is better than in top of the copper Why though? I really think that on top of copper is probably the better city (not necessarily ultra long term, but in terms of speeding our expansion). Let's wait for the scout report though, on top of copper may well have an additional resource.
October 13th, 2021, 15:03
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In reverse order,
I think the PH is better because is closer, will be able to grow cottages between both cities and also working the copper is 1 hamemr more than setting on top of the copper and working a mine in the PH. The only problem is safety that needs 5 turns more to grab copper. (also gets settled on PH one turn faster)
Yes, Mjmd saw our capitol by the edge of the wheat
in which tile would you put the warrior so that he wouldnt feel threated? I feel that hill give us more info that staying in one flat tile that jsut let us see 1 tile around, but im open to see your thoughts.
October 13th, 2021, 16:19
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Again, let's wait for what the scout sees. Just want to point out that the PH does not really have more cottages shared with the cap than the copper (just 2 riverless tiles, one of them plains). Also a PH mine is not a tile I would want to work regularly, so that balance isn't quite pracitcal.
My point was that I don't feel entirely happy with the gold hill for the warrior, but I have no better idea either 
October 13th, 2021, 16:23
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Oh i see your points, ofc we can see better the copper city in case there is some nice tiles over there, maybe gems??? I miss our gems. If thats the case there is no doubt xD
I didnt see your point on the warrior, thanks for clearing it out xD
October 14th, 2021, 07:46
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Not much to say today either.
Mjmd knows our demos, so he knows we are first on prod. We still need several turns to get to his graphs. Finally he got to 2 pop this turn.
As i said we are still first on production so if he is trying a rush he will take ages to it. We are fine.
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