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[ipecac]

It's Maslow's hierarchy, humans being human.

[ipecac]

[quote="GeneralKilCavalry" pid='761193' dateline='1604517486']

Your mindset here is nothing but confusing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W398q3iChY

'Trump recount fundraising'

'Biden transition fundraising'

lmao

[Cyneheard]

Your mindset here is nothing but confusing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W398q3iChY

'Trump recount fundraising'

'Biden transition fundraising'

lmao

The transition fundraising request is because the feds are not allowing Biden to access the transition $ he should be getting as President-Elect, so he's got to cover the transition costs somehow. It's a dumb system, but he's trying to work within the dumb system because he can't just change it.

The Trump recount fundraising is a grift, because the $ isn't going to the Trump recount unless you donate over $8,000 - it's going to the RNC and Trump's campaign accounts (not sure if it's for the 2020 campaign debt, or future endeavors).

[ipecac]

lmao, as if his campaign doesn't have hundreds of millions left or can't raise a short term loan backed by the USG.

[DaveV]

The Trump recount fundraising is a grift, because the $ isn't going to the Trump recount unless you donate over $8,000 - it's going to the RNC and Trump's campaign accounts (not sure if it's for the 2020 campaign debt, or future endeavors).

Oh, no, it's far more mendacious than that. From the Washington Post, https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2...c-recount/:

However, Trump’s new leadership PAC offers far more flexibility than a recount account. A leadership PAC is supposed to be used to make contributions to candidates, but it also might be used to finance Trump’s travel and rallies, to pay for events at Trump properties and for other purposes. Additionally, although federal law states that any “contribution accepted by a candidate” cannot be used for personal expenses — such as excessive consulting payments to family members or a trip to Disney World — the Federal Election Commission has created ambiguity about the extent to which the personal use ban applies to contributions accepted by a candidate’s or officeholder’s leadership PAC.

In other words, it's a personal slush fund for Donnie boy.

[Cyneheard]

lmao, as if his campaign doesn't have hundreds of millions left or can't raise a short term loan backed by the USG.

1) If a campaign has actual money leftover, they're doing it wrong. (I've worked on US campaigns, trust me on this).

2) The US Government isn't going to back any of it, right now he's not in charge.

[Serdoa]

Caring about the political system and believing in democracy is extremely bourgeoisie. Aside from being taken in by the occasional demagogue, the poor just care about welfare or wages. The actually rich bri- lobby the politicians.

What you stated here and what Maslow stated has exactly zero overlap. You deny that poor people care about the political system or even believe in democracy - because they just want money ("welfare or wages"). That has nothing to do with Maslow postulating that there is a hierarchy of needs.

Even in the most positive light viewed - as in that you just tried to say that poor people have their basic needs not fulfilled, hence they have no time to think about political systems or care which system they live in, but only that their basic needs are better tended too - your statement would still be a gross misunderstanding of the hierarchy of needs.

But apart from your apparent misunderstanding: Look at history and tell me that poor people that do not have enough to eat care not about the political system that is responsible for this status. That's the first stage of the hierarchy of needs and even if that is not fulfilled, people do care about political systems.

That whole statement of yours is just bullshit and bringing Maslow in does not change that.

[ipecac]

Serdoa: my mistake for trying to have a constructive conversation with someone who calls me a fascist, it's impossible.

Cyneheard: if his win was so obvious, he could easily get a loan from banks or his corporate backers/masters. Instead he's getting the money from ordinary folk with no intention of repaying.

[Cyneheard]

Serdoa: my mistake for trying to have a constructive conversation with someone who calls me a fascist, it's impossible.

Cyneheard: if his win was so obvious, he could easily get a loan from banks or his corporate backers/masters. Instead he's getting the money from ordinary folk with no intention of repaying.

Loans to elected officials' campaigns are...complicated at best, because they're easily turned into gifts - not going to pretend I understand all the legal issues there, but it's not a real option. And since it's a campaign expense, the campaign would have to pay for it, not the White House or US Treasury.

And presidential transitions have always been partially publicly funded.

[Charriu]

I think bringing that project to the US would be great for the whole USA.

Well apparently this project is coming to the US:

https://www.allsides.com/talks