The Dark arts - C&D Master Thread

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Turn 150 C&D notes

WPC received only land score.

Nothing for the Spanish. Later on settled the city of Nodwengu, probably on the tile 1N of their deer. It's a decent city location, sure, and one they should have settled long ago, but now?!?

Apolyton researched Economics, received the bonus Great Merchant, and grew at least six cities. They had a score increase of 52, but circa 38 of that is accounted for. The 14 remaining is more pop and some land.

The Germans grew 4 cities (Weil der Stadt, Warendorf, Westheim, and Wombatshausen). Then they whipped (all 2-pop) the cities of Webringen, Worms, Wesselburen, Wasserburg, and Weil der Stadt. They have 71 total pop now, and still don't have Feudalism.

Their city of Fort Alamo (previously Wolfratshausen) completed a wall, so it's a somewhat harder nut to crack now.

CivFr likely grew 2 pop from the increase in rival best population, and also received land score. I think I can confirm them having built their National and Heroic Epics, and likely also Moai, otherwise they'd require far too much pop.

CivPlayers grew 2 visible cities and researched Alphabet. This showed they know the following techs:

* All ancient
* All classical except Construction and Compass
* Theology, Paper, Civil Service
* Education

They had a score increase of 22, of which circa 17 is accounted for, leaving the rest to pop and land.

CFC grew 5 pop, and likely has 122 total.

Univers gained 18 score, and grew at least 6 pop (worth 14 or 15 score). They are the rival best in raw pop, at least until CFC capture another Spanish city.

Power and build analysis will follow later.

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Not much to say about the production of WPC - they continue to build units.

The Spanish finally started to whip, doing a 2-pop whip in Nongoma. I believe they've finished a catapult in Nobamba, but one can hardly believe they are at war…

Apolyton finished two banks, a market, and a forge. Still solid on infrastructure clearly.

The Germans finished five units and two walls (they have walls in Wasserburg, Wolfratshausen/Fort Alamo, and Warendorf). At least they seem ready to put up a fight. From the invested hammers it seems to be mainly ancient units, though I guess they built at least one catapult.

CivPlayers built a lighthouse in Atzcapotzalco.

CFC continue to build units. I think they built two more knights this turn, and probably a catapult. They should finish the Notre Dame in Terasvin at the end of turn.

CivPlayers are also pushing infrastructure. One market (in their capital), two forges, a lighthouse, and a Rathaus. I believe they whipped another Rathaus in Filifurm this turn as well.

[kjn]

I logged in after WPC moved into German lands, and WPC's war weariness is up to 8, and rival global power is down with 16000.

I think WPC has lost two chariots, and the Germans lost a quechua and an axe, but that's mainly a guess. In any case there has been 2 victories and 2 losses for WPC.

[sooooo]

EDIT: Nevermind, I can't read :P

[kjn]

CFC attacked the Spanish again, and took two cities. One of them, probably Ondini, was auto-razed (size 1, founded T147). The other I'm quite unsure about. From CFC's score increase, they should now hold a size 4 city, but all the Spanish cities are either smaller or larger than size 5 (size 7, 9, and 2 according to my notes).

From geography, I judge Ulmgungundlova was the most likely city for CFC to take.

Heh. From APTmod's espionage view, CFC now has a city named "No existe".

Anyway, logged in, and it seems CFC launched a naval assault. We should step up our plans to settle the silver islands.

Rival best in power fell with 10k, so I think CFC lost a knight. Hard to assess the losses of the Spanish, but they are now the rival worst in power according to the APTmod graph. Sadly, I missed to note down the war weariness number for CFC.

[waterbat]

Wow the spanish are getting raped.

[Ruff_Hi]

This war of CFC's must have required a fair bit of planning. To get galleys around there to launch units at that city took at least 5 turns. We should remember that they are capable civ4 players.

[pindicator]

We will need to fit Optics in at some point, both for whales and for naval defense.

[kjn]

Some war weariness numbers as of T150

RB, with the Germans: 13
WPC, with the Germans: 8
Spanish, with CFC: 9
CivFr, with CFC: 2
CFC, with the Spanish: 44 (24 from taking cities)
CFC, with CivFr: 2

[kjn]

This war of CFC's must have required a fair bit of planning. To get galleys around there to launch units at that city took at least 5 turns. We should remember that they are capable civ4 players.

Nope, took twice as long. I count ten turns via sea from Abhi to Nongoma, unless they built a fort 1E of Abhi (in which case it would take them nine turns). Which makes your point even stronger.