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Oh and lewwyn, the reason nobody else is going on about my double vote ability being scummy is that I clearly explained the reasoning for all my votes and how I used the power and it was considered reasonable.

Yes I have not contributed as much as I would have liked, but that in no way makes me scum.

At this point given there seems to be no interest in going for uber, I would accept switching to lewwyn the werewolf role seer if anybody else wanted to push that
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(July 3rd, 2013, 22:37)Qgqqqqq Wrote: Who's invite BTW?
I assumed novice. Seems a plausible auto-correct: (in/on/no)vi(c/t)e.
No comment on Lewwyn to Llewelyn? tongue

(July 4th, 2013, 00:32)Jkaen Wrote: Why is everybody insisting on over complicating a 2 scum team set up already by adding sky's and survivors, it makes far more sense to just have werewolves, which I personally expect to have 2 left not 1 as various other people are pushing.
Definitely agreed about the SK. There has been literally no actual evidence thus far to support the existence of an extra factional kill - we're having enough trouble justifying why there appears to only have been one scum-kill on N1 as is.

What are you using as the basis of there being two scum left? Similar arguments to people who are saying there should be a SK - 12/2/2 seems town-favoured? I don't think it really is. Sure, it currently being 6-1 seems skewed in favour of the town, but keep in mind we've had 2-3 night kills prevented. Would you be saying it seems unbalanced to have only one scum left if there were only 5 or 4 people alive?
The only point I can see that indicates there might be more than 1 scum left is the fact they went for pindicator last night, when they had to be expecting me to be able to reveal whoever killed him. However, it could just have easily been a high risk / high reward play - if pindicator wasn't taken out as soon as possible, he'd eventually block the scum from a kill and we'd win with the next lynch. Why not take a chance, risking immediate loss to prevent inevitable loss?
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(July 4th, 2013, 01:14)Jkaen Wrote: At this point given there seems to be no interest in going for uber, I would accept switching to lewwyn the werewolf role seer if anybody else wanted to push that

The werewolf role seer? smoke This is so ridiculous. You continue to to try and smear me over and over, Jkaen.
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Q, I'm just going to ignore you. I did not like your newest reply either. Turning this into a pissing contest between us two would only hurt the village.

Matt, it does make some sense. But it is still weird that they would risk it all like that. What if the werewolves did have a seer and knew that you only had a set amount of charges? That is a possibility I hadn't thought of. Still, there are too many explanations to know for sure. They could have taken a risk like you said, or you could be a wolf, or they could have a seer.
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See this is part of the reason I think 2 wolves. going for pind as the last wolf would be hugely risky, but if they had 2 then maybe risking one to let the other through would be more acceptable?

Regardless if its 1 or 2 wolves, doesnt really affect the two I feel are suspicious.

And Lewwyn your cases on me are desperately poor, you have:
- you feel I have a suspicious power, this has been addressed to I think everybody elses satisfaction already
- I have been inactive some times, this isnt unfortunately the first time it has happened to me, and I dont see how its a read either way
- 'he suspects me so I suspect him'

Thats a pretty rubbish case don't you think?
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(July 4th, 2013, 01:43)Jkaen Wrote: See this is part of the reason I think 2 wolves. going for pind as the last wolf would be hugely risky, but if they had 2 then maybe risking one to let the other through would be more acceptable?

Regardless if its 1 or 2 wolves, doesnt really affect the two I feel are suspicious.

And Lewwyn your cases on me are desperately poor, you have:
- you feel I have a suspicious power, this has been addressed to I think everybody elses satisfaction already
- I have been inactive some times, this isnt unfortunately the first time it has happened to me, and I dont see how its a read either way
- 'he suspects me so I suspect him'

Thats a pretty rubbish case don't you think?

No, I'm much more suspicious of you based on tone, weak arguments against other people and easy targeting.
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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Also process of elimination. If its not you, it's Brick, IMO.
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(July 4th, 2013, 01:32)Jowy Wrote: Matt, it does make some sense. But it is still weird that they would risk it all like that. What if the werewolves did have a seer and knew that you only had a set amount of charges? That is a possibility I hadn't thought of. Still, there are too many explanations to know for sure. They could have taken a risk like you said, or you could be a wolf, or they could have a seer.
Only role we've heard that is anything like a seer is uber, and I'm not sure his is specific enough to pull "3 charges" out of a scan on me. Who else could do it? Lewwyn could be lying about his non-lethal ability, but I know where he went the first three nights, and they weren't to me. Could be a second ability of Qgqqqqq or Jkaen (yes, second ability, everyone seems to have two / double abilities - I'm tracker and watcher bundled together, uber scans and had that kill, Lewwyn either protects or kills depending on target, pindicator's chat ability was tied to a roleblock). Could be BRick, if he'd lied about his vig-shots like he did his post restriction. Can't see it being you, since you wouldn't have brought it up if it was.

I just don't see any way they could have *known* I was out of charges.
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Always, somewhere,
someone is fighting for you.
-- As long as you remember her,
you are not alone.
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Well tone is very nebolous, I cant really defend that and convieniently you dont have to show evidence for it

Weak arguments, you are joking, given some of the crap that has been put forward in this game, I dont see how mine are the weakest, but by all means put forward an example and I will explain my thinking

Finally how is going after you and uberfish today easy targetting?

How is voting for zak on day 2 easy targetting

If I wanted easy I would have jumped on the policy lynch bus against brick when it had novice and zak behind it. heck brick would still be pretty easy today if I wanted to push in that direction
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lol cross post with you suggesting brick... so that would be the two most easiest mislyches up today you want to go for eh?
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