(July 4th, 2013, 02:59)uberfish Wrote: Matt, do you think the gunmaker's apprentice flavour "learns at day, shoots at night" that was semi-confirmed by my ability could fit with being a wolf? It was my main reasoning for thinking Brick wasn't a wolf.
That's actually a decent point. And it really doesn't seem that a serial killer is all that likely, either, which would actually fit with that scan.
God(s) damnit, I'd spent half the day convincing myself that he was a good candidate and now I'm back to not having any idea what-so-ever.
Let's try this in reverse, then:
Lewwyn - town. Slight chance of scum if two wolves left.
BRick - claim backed by uber doesn't seem appropriate for wolf. I don't see SK as likely.
uberfish - more town vibes than scum vibes. Presence of vig shot mildly suspect, use no tell either way.
leaves:
Jowy - vanilla town claim gives slight town, especially given inexperience.
Qgqqqqq - a lot quieter than usual. I mean, *I* have more posts than him. Quality of contribution not really changed. Jkaen - scum-like use of double vote, which changed when called out on it. Claim of double vote after pretty much everyone else had claimed doesn't really save face here. And now it apparently won't apply today, and he didn't think to inform anyone of that before uber shot someone to make it go away?
To be honest, I really have no idea between the bottom three. Top three do all seem pretty much cleared if I'm right about there only being 1 scum left, though
also, uber: any chance we could get a reminder as to who you scanned and what their result was? I recall you stating them at some point, but I can't seem to find it now.
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Okay. I was thinking maybe the "learns by day" refers to some kind of a scan ability at day, but doesn't look like that's possible.
I'm confident he is the gun-maker's apprentice.
We might need to take another look at the possibility of the gun-maker's apprentice being a wolf. The reason we dismissed it earlier was because we thought that sanity was a mechanic used to balance the game. Sanity drops when villagers die, so it wouldn't make sense that when wolves are winning, they get an additional ability to help them even more. Now we have more roles revealed. Brick's is the only one that requires certain sanity to be activated. Think about Uber's abilities. It makes more sense that sanity dropping is a bad thing for the village, a cost for gaining information and in the end a kill. I know it's more meta talk, but am I the only one who thinks abilities that make more sense are more likely to be true than those that don't? Btw I took a look at the Gaz campaign, and Brick did not join in until Gaz was already a dead man. All the credit to him for being the one who essentially caught novice, but against Gaz he was not an active party.
Yes there can be.
I don't see anything supporting a SK.
@Jowy:
Ok I realise you don't want to talk about this, but it needs to be discussed here because it effects reads.
You know me a little bit from the pitboss, and possibly read previous threads. Plus of course there's 2R1B.
Based off that, do you think I'd try to get into a pissing contest?
I'm really not.
Please, just tell me where you're seeing this as me lying. Tell me where I'm twisting your words.
Because I'm not trying to, I'm just trying to understand this, and explain my views.
Edit: Ok spoilered because I'm realising this is nowhere near as good as I thought it was, just me being paranoid.
I'm thinking Uberfish now (how many is that Lewwyn ).
The late vig claim I took as a strong villagery tell, but look at the facts:
*In doing so, he increased the suspicion on the other vigs, potentially sabotaging a village asset
*He avoids this suspicion as he was last to claim
*It means he can get away with a day-kill on a village-sancitified target without having large responsibility because others did it.
- sidenote; if we follow this through, he avoided PR like Lewwyn because the village confirmed vig would've spread suspicion on him
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Looking at night, I knew I had my vote today, I only put the maths together that I lost the vote after the kill had been made.
Regardless of that, is anybody really suggesting that me saying I would lose my extra vote would in any way of stopped the vig shot being used, that is not believeable, especially because even now its being seem as a 'scum power'.
Any Jowy, what you just wrote is wrong, dropping sanity freely is good for the village as it opens up more powers! thats why I dont think uberfishes power makes sense
It does annoy me that people still think having a power that drops sanity is bad for the village. Unless people have more info than me that they are not sharing if my only power was to drop sanity with no other effects at all then I would be spamming that like crazy to unlock powers like bricks.
@Matt, but then we go back to the situation where village has 3 vigilante type roles which seems excessive even if they're all limited
for reference my results are
N1 pindicator - pindicator, he is a transparent character certainly
N2 novice - brains like no other
N3 brick - learns at day, fires at night
N4 zak - talks all day
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